I actually think moving this to the wiki is not a bad idea... that is what we have done for all the Geronimo docs. If needed we can create additional spaces in Confluence to hold the pure-docs aside from the website.

I am not really sure how many Apache projects use Word to generate docs, I can't think of any of the top of my head (doesn't mean there aren't any). But generally more open and accessible formats are preferred, so that if I want to help with the docs I don't have to go out and buy Microsoft Word/Office to do it. I suppose OpenOffice would work as long as the format is compatible.

I have not tried recently, but in the past changes to a Word doc, even the xml flavors often make scm change logs very difficult to grok and comprehend what was actually changed. This can be easier with formats like docbook, or using Confluence's change notification emails.

BTW, a Confluence space can be exported as a PDF file, so you'd get html and PDF (plus wiki markup) versions of the docs. The only thing is that the "root source document" would be a Confluence space, not a single file on a file system.

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I'm pro-Confluence for docs.

--jason


On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Bruggeman, Michael wrote:

In my opinion the best solution is to generate all of the documentation from a root source document, such as a word document and from that root doc. HTML and PDF formats can easily be generated.

Michael

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The thanks are to Michael Bruggeman who updated the docs.
I think the best solution would be if we have both, a html version for the reasons you mentioned and also a pdf version that can be part of the distribution zip so people who download Wink would be able to work with and print. It would also help us bundle the documentation per a specific version, so people with older version then the latest (once we have older versions :)) will be able to easily find the documentation of the version they have.

I do not want to manage the two instances of the same document (wiki and pdf) so the best solution IMO would be if we could generate one instance out of the other. Wiki provides an option to generate a pdf format out of it, but I'm not sure if it gives the full capabilities we would like to have in the pdf like cross references, index, etc and I'm afraid we would need to keep all the documentation in one wiki page in order to be able to generate pdf out of it, a page that can grow to several hundreds of "pages". I do not have experience in managing documents in several formats and I'll be happy to hear good practices.

--Eli



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Thanks for updating the doc Eli. There's still some HP branding on the first page that we should probably change to Apache at some point.

So, I'm just going to throw this out there. What would you guys think about taking the content in the PDF and getting it on the wiki? I'm not saying that it has to be done immediately, or that you in particular should do it. But want to see what others think about that.

Here's my reasoning... The content in the document in excellent, but as a user my primary problem solving tool is Google. When I go to search for information related to Wink that probably exists in that doc, I won't find it. The harder it is to find the necessary information, the less likely it is for people to a) help themselves in terms of development and debugging and b) it's less likely for people to use the project when they can't find what's supported easily.

Just a thought...

-Nick



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Hi Michael
All the "symphony" references including the those who are part of parameter or a property name should be changed to wink. For those who are parameter or a property we should also do code changes, part of them where already been changed (WINK-14).
Regards,
Eli


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Hi Eli,
What about all of these instances of the "Symphony word used in the code.

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The Symphony_SDK_2.0_Features_List.pdf and its content need to refer to Wink instead of Symphony
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               Key: WINK-25
               URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WINK-25
           Project: Wink
        Issue Type: Task
        Components: Documentation
  Affects Versions: 0.1
          Reporter: Eli Baram




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