[Winona Online Democracy]

Hi, Kathy and all those in this transportation discussion:

Let me say that I, too, share fond memories of the busses in Winona.  [I'm
glad they ran as often as they did ... I remember that it still was not easy
for an elementary student to ride carrying a very large trombone in an even
larger case!]

I'm too young to remember the streetcars, but there's a wealth of photos of
them at the Winona County Historical Society's museum on Johnson Street.
Winona was a very progressive city with its own streetcar system - some
evidence of the where the tracks were can still be found on East Third
Street and other places.  Alas, the tracks themselves are long gone.  One of
the last Winona streetcars (#10) has been found and is being restored at the
Minnesota Transportation Museum.  Thanks to Erik Brom for the information -
because of that, I found out that my place of employment, HBC (58 Johnson
Street), is located in what was the former streetcar "barn" for Winona.

As far as Winona's present system goes, it is one of the most cost efficient
systems in the state.  We have a much lower operating cost since the city
owns the busses but doesn't maintain them nor covers the driver's pay.
Although there are liability issues, the city has, in my opinion, been able
to provide this service at a very low cost to the property taxpayer.  City
staff has done a very good job of coordinating this public and private
partnership. Input on routes is always helpful and is appreciated.  With the
recent replacement of all the system's busses, we now have busses that are
air conditioned and accessible.

As far as other systems are concerned, I've observed mass transit in Tokyo
and Winona's sister city of Kogota.  In larger cities like Tokyo, one really
does not need a car.  The subways and trains are very frequent, on time, and
easy to navigate (well, Tokyo Train Station can be intimidating...)  When we
were in Kogota, a city of about 22,000 population, we were driven by private
vehicle to and from our various meetings.  Taxis in Japan were universally
excellent - mostly new, clean, and virtually spotless - with drivers wearing
white gloves and with fancy doilies on the seat backs.  Of course, in Japan
the government requires that car owners maintain their vehicles and pass
tests to make sure they are not rusted or mechanically deficient.  (Some in
Japan say it is to benefit the car industry).  And the "bullet" trains are
excellent, too.  All of this, as my small understanding of their system
goes, was first developed at great government expense, then (in the case of
trains) privatized, with some of the new private companies struggling to
compete.

As everyone has observed, any extension of transit will depend upon
available funds.  As well as whether folks will use it.  We have an
efficient and cost effective system now; I would look very carefully at the
impact an expansion would have on the operating costs.

By the way, the busses being used during the weekend evenings between the
downtown and university campuses are being supported by those institutions
and grants and not by the city alone.

I also think the city has done quite a bit over the last few years to
promote bicycle transportation, too.

Thanks for an interesting discussion.

Al Thurley
1st ward city council representative
1566 Heights Boulevard
Winona, MN 55987
(507) 454-3993
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