[Winona Online Democracy]

I agree that this issue is a national one.  Over the years I have heard that
one reason to oppose decriminalization was that marijuana was a gateway
drug.  Thus, went the argument, if we permit marijuana it will lead to much
more dangerous drugs.  The answer to that argument is that there is no
imperical proof that a majority of pot smokers go on to more dangerous
drugs.  In fact, the vast majority of pot smokers do not use any more
serious drugs.  The second argument is that alcohol and cigarettes are also
gateway drugs that lead to more serious drug use.  Thirdly, the logic is
flawed.  It posits that we should not do what we know is right today, for
fear that we will be unable to resist what is wrong tomorrow.

One of the problems with dealing sensibly with marijuana is that there has
never been a good scientific study of a controlled group of marijuana users.
With the law in place, it would be against the law to conduct such research.
Thus, we really don't know the effects of using marijuana, long term or
short term.

The law enforcement community lives off the drug war.  They get to
confiscate property of drug law violators when arrested (they don't have to
wait for convictions).  The property including money, jewels, cars etc. can
be sold and the proceeds kept by the law enforcement unit that does the
arresting.  This is a strong incentive for law enforcement wrongdoing.  I do
not wish to imply that all law enforcement bodies make arrests simply to get
possession of valuable goods, but the incentive is there and shouldn't be.
All confiscated property should be placed in county or state budgets to be
dealt with as any other asset.

A high percentage of detective work, survellaince, investigations, and other
expensive police work involves the war on drugs.  There swat teams used to
break into homes suspected of housing drugs and dealers.  This is pretty
heady wine for law enforcement to deal with. It reminds me of the glorious
work of law enforcement during the prohibition era.  When prohibition ended,
the bootleggers went out of business or moved on to other pursuits.  It is a
lesson we have found it hard to believe.
Not only did bootleggers have to shift to other pursuits, but so did much of
law enforcement and corrections.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "National Forum - Winona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 08:04
Subject: [National] RE: [Winona] Krage/drug problems


>
> [Winona - National Forum]
>
> John Dollimore raises a very important issue: the criminalization of
drugs -
> one which we will not solve with a few dozen posts on WOD - but
nevertheless
> one that deserves attention.  It is important because it ripples through
so
> many parts of our society and because it is "taboo" in many circles to
even
> discuss it rationally.  Trying to speak sanely and logically about
> decriminalizing drugs is often seen as akin to murdering your grandmother
or
> prostituting your children.  Yet there are some compelling arguments for
> considering some of the proposals John cites.  It is mostly in the hands
of
> the State and the Federal governments, who have the laws governing such
> things - not local cities like Winona.  If we are to pursue the topic I
> suggest we take it to the National Forum, unless there are specific things
> folks in Winona can do to affect changes.
>
> To cite but one example, it is fairly well understood that both alcohol
and
> tobacco contribute far more to health problems and mortality than
marijuana,
> yet the first two are legal and marijuana is not.  When I was in high
school
> (Winona Senior High, class of 1971) we conducted an informal poll of our
> classmates and found at least 1 in 3 had smoked marijuana.  During the
same
> time frame there was at least one spectacular car crash, with alcohol a
> factor, causing the deaths of three high school students.  It would be
easy
> to follow my classmates (now all approaching 50) and find the health
effects
> of smoking.  I would challenge anyone to find a serious health or social
> problem connected to marijuana use compared to the alcohol and tobacco.
>
> - Phil Carlson, Mpls
>
> P.S. I was one of the students who smoked marijuana, and haven't for over
30
> years for the same reasons I drink moderately and don't smoke - it isn't
> good for me.  But these were decisions reached by experience and reason,
> rather than fear, superstition, and threats.
>
>


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