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To All, This is one of the few times when I agree with Dick. The School board has a responsibility to the people who elected them, not to be a rubber stamp to the Governor or his Flunkies. The public if invited to a meeting and they are always invited to the meetings unless it is a strategy/contract meeting. Steve, you were wrong to hold a meeting where the public, who were there were unable to follow the meeting. This was rude and discourteous to the people present. Sorry if it seems that I am picking on an individual but what was done was wrong and the Chair is responsible for the Actions of the whole. Bob K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Gaffron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Schild Winona Online Democracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Kranz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: Re: re: [Winona] School Board Meeting Format > [Winona Online Democracy] > > Years ago when we met in the lower library, there was a sound system > available with mikes for everyone. What ever happened to that system? Also, > it was then required that all school board meeting be at least audio taped. > Finally, for those of us in the rural areas, we would really like the > meetings, both study sessions and regular meetings, to be televised. > Charter provides them to us at least in Rollingstone on our government > access channel. I would encourage the board to hold all their meetings at > City Hall so all of us can be a part of your discussion. Dick Gaffron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Schild Winona Online Democracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Steve Kranz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:16 PM > Subject: cc: re: [Winona] School Board Meeting Format > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > I attended the most recent meeting in the Media Center of Winona Middle > School and found it nearly impossible to hear what was being said. At the > very least, the board should use microphones so that those in the audience > can hear what's going on. > > Though that's a significant issue, I think there are still bigger ones > arising out of the new format. First, I think everyone in the school > district is better served by having both meetings (study session and regular > meeting) televised. When you consider the importance of the deliberations > and decisions undertaken by the school board, and combine that with the > difficulty many people have in getting out of the house to attend a meeting, > I don't think there's any question but that more people will know more about > what the board is doing if both meetings are televised. And more people > knowing more about school-district business is a good thing. > > As far as the board members being "on stage," that's part of being a public > official. Board members SHOULD be in the public eye--which tv makes > literally possible--as they make decisions that will directly or indirectly > affect everyone in the community. Elected officials must be willling to > speak candidly with the public watching. If they're not, they're not doing > their job. > > A third point: I don't see how the new format is going to make dialogue > among board members any more productive. All I see as a result of the new > format is less public awareness and understanding of issues being discussed > by the board. Likewise, the new format will result in citizens knowing less > about stands taken by and statements made by individual board members.There > is, to my way of thinking, nothing about the old format that would interfere > with productive dialogue. > > Mr. Kranz said that the board sometimes argues a bit; given the nature of > the issues it faces (or any public body faces, for that matter), it seems > that argument or disagreement is inevitable. In fact, it's the disagreements > and the way they're resolved (or not) that are often a citizen's key method > of determining whether the public body and individual officials have done > their job well or not. The public must understand the arguments that are at > the root of the issues, and I believe the best way for the public to > understand those arguments is to see and hear them as fully as possible. > > As far as the length of the meetings, that's something for the board itself > to deal with. If the meetings are getting too long, then the board should > find ways to limit discussion without locking the public out or making it > harder for the public to stay abreast of what the board is doing. In times > such as these, we need more openness and transparency on the part of public > officials and public bodies, not less. I say bring back the tv cameras and > conduct all school-board meetings in ways that give as many citizens as > possible the broadest chance to watch and participate in all aspects of > board business. > > Steve Schild > > On Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:34 AM, Steve Kranz wrote: > > > >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:34:15 -0500 > >From: Steve Kranz > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [Winona] School Board Meeting Format > > > >[Winona Online Democracy] > > > >Greetings, > > > >I was hoping to get some input and ideas from W.O.D. members on the format > >of school board meetings. (for those on the list who may not know, I > >currently serve as Chair of the school board for Winona Area Public > >Schools). At the beginning of this school year, I decided that my personal > >focus this year as a board member would be "board governance" -- I want to > >focus on helping the board function as best as possible and set up > >structures that promote constructive dialogue between board members (as > well > >as, between the board and community) and good decision making. > > > >Recently, we made changes in our meeting structure in an attempt to: > >- create a more constructive dialogue (we've been known to argue a bit), > >- reduce the length of meetings (which tend to run upwards of 4-5 hours) > >- and, in general, create an environment that is more conducive to good > >decision-making > > > >Our traditional structure is comprised of two meetings a month (the first > >and third Thursdays) which take place in the City Council Chambers and are > >broadcast on cable access. The first meeting of the month is meant to be a > >"Study Session" in which the board does not conduct business, but only > >discusses issues. It has evolved over time, though, into pretty much just > >another business meeting. > > > >The new structure includes the following: > > > >1. We have created "board committees" in which 3-4 board members discuss > >issues with administration and make recommendations to the board. > >Currently, there is a Budget Committee and a Board Operations Committee. > >These meetings are not televised, but are open to the public. The reasons > >for creating the committees was (1) to provide more opportunity for > >board/admin dialogue during the formation of policy (rather than having the > >board only see the "finished product" at board meetings) and (2) to > >contribute to shorter regular board meetings by transferring some of the > >discussion to the committee meetings (which can then be summarized in a > >recommendations to the full board). > > > >2. We changed our study session to become an "actual" study session. It is > >now an untelevised meeting that is open to the public and takes place at a > >less formal setting. The agenda is limited to a few topics and issues are > >not voted upon (unless there is a time constraint involved). Board members > >also discuss the agenda for the regular meeting and indicate what > >information they will need from administration at the meeting. The purpose > >of these changes is to (1) to reduce conflict at regular meetings by > >allowing board members to participate more directly in setting the agenda > >(2) to allow board members to get a feel for other board members' views on > >issues before we need to vote on them (3) to encourage more constructive > >dialogue by providing an environment that is less formal and "feels" more > >like a discussion/dialogue, as opposed to our regular meetings which tend > to > >feel more like a "public hearing". > > > >At the first "new" study session we had difficulties with the public > hearing > >the board. We will provide amplification at the next meeting to try and > >alleviate this. > > > >I am sensitive to keeping the operations of the board as open and > >transparent as possible. I think it is a balancing act to try and allow > the > >board opportunities to discuss issues in a format that doesn't always feel > >like they are "on stage", while still providing the public with access to > >the process. Issues such as televising meetings are important, but I also > >think the public has an interest in the board members being able to work > >together constructively. I think everyone would like to see "less > >entertainment and more good decisions" by the board (well . . . almost > >everyone ;-). > > > >In addition to the changes described above, we are also going to hold a > >board retreat in November (or late October) in which we will have a > >professional facilitator guide the board through a goal setting process and > >try to help the board develop a common vision for the future of Winona Area > >Public Schools. We are also considering holding "listening sessions" every > >three months for the sole purpose of the board receiving public input. > > > >So -- for those who have made it this far into the email -- what do you > >think of this effort? What else can (or should) we do? Do you have any > >suggestions regarding the changes and/or how the board can function most > >constructively? > > > >-Steve Kranz, Board Member > >-Winona Area Public Schools > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > >All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > >No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > >To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > >http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > >Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact > page at > > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page > at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy > All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. > No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. > To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit > http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona > Any problems or suggestions can be directed to > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at > http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. 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