Byron,
You are right from the standpoint that we
consumers create Wal-Marts which then employ people to service “our
buying” patterns. When any business, large or small, fills a need
or void in the market place which then draws consumers into their stores it
will be successful. They then have the challenge to continue to attract
us consumers with new ideas, products, hours, lower prices or additional
services to keep us coming back. If they fail to do so, then another
store will replace them and they will follow the path of Woolworths, Tempo and
Montgomery Wards.
How many owner operator retail stores, not
franchises or chains, located downtown match or beat the “boxes” in
wages and benefits for their employees when not owners? How many of the
owners have thrown in the towel because the risk, benefits and rewards can not
match what they can make becoming managers of the “boxes”
Small companies can take advantage of the
tax breaks given to all business owners, who put their money at risk, but
to do so they must first make a profit. The name of the game will always
be “It is not how much income you gross but how much you get to keep
after all the taxes are paid”
Paul Double
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Sent: Thursday,
October 19, 2006 9:13 AM
Byron,
Fair enough – the super rich may not create many jobs but do create some.
However in the U.S. small businesses create around 80% of all jobs.
And yet these small business owner get few of the break large
corporations do.
Kelly
On 10/18/06 6:28 PM, "Bothuns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
“Some would
argue that the super rich create jobs and I agree.”
Not me. Consumers create jobs, plain and simple. The owners of places
like Wal Mart didn’t become “Super Rich” by creating jobs.
They did it by eliminating jobs, or paying lower wages for them.
Corporations love to hold our jobs hostage for a ransom of tax loopholes,
but they need access to our buying power more than we need the benefits of
their “business acumen”.
How many jobs do you think would get shipped overseas if those companies had to
keep the resulting products over there with them? The super rich need us.
We’d be just fine without them.
Bryon Bothun
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On Behalf Of Kelly Herold
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
7:53 AM
To: LindaF; E Democracy
Subject: Re: [Winona] Property
Taxes Over Last Four Years: Star Tribune Article
Cost
of living and inflation eat up many of our taxes – but to be honest the
tax breaks given to the top 1% of our citizenship is the price we all pay.
In Minnesota alone around 25,000 folks making 300,000 or more have realized an
overall tax decrease while those in the shrinking middle class have seen a tax
increase.
The fee based initiatives also shift much of the tax burden to the middle
class.
When CEO are retiring with 100+ million packages and other compensation
sweatheart deals the middle class continues to work itself to death.
Some would argue that the super rich create jobs and I agree. But the
overall job creation, are over the past decade, undeniably moving towards less
paying, low benefit service jobs. The productivity realize by industry
can be attributed to mainly two things – increased hours of current
workers and shipping jobs overseas.
As a result – the shared cost of sky rocketing health care, inflated
housing, and unfair tax burden continues to
erode the back bone of America, Minnesota and small communities like Winona.
Kelly
On 10/18/06 6:47 AM, "LindaF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Winona Online Democracy]
While I don't doubt your numbers are correct I don't think you are
comparing apples to apples.
My daughter and son in law live in Onalaska. I am going to look at her
tax statement the next time I am at her house. I believe they are
paying higher taxes in Wisconsin because more is taken out of that fund for
various projects than in Minnesota.
Linda Fort
[Winona Online Democracy]
While I know that residential
property taxes have gone up, especially last year with the school
referendum, please keep in mind that homestead property taxes in
Minnesota are less than half on a comparably valued home in LaCrosse. I
checked the LaCrosse County web site this morning and a house valued at
$183,000 had taxes of $4,700. A house in Winona at that value carried a
2006 property tax of just less than $2,000.
My point--While the increases
sure seem to be a bad trend, it could always be worse.
Stephen Hacken
Winona County Assessor
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