[Winona Online Democracy]

Susan Brown wrote:

> The original message that was shared was to focus on Mexican
> immigrants, although they never really stated that.  I think
> anyone who reads this understands the intent.  I get very
> nervous when I start to see an attempt to single out any one
> race in particular.

What a ridiculous statement that is, because "Mexican" is not a race;
it's a nationality.  Almost everyone in Mexico has at least some
European ancestry.  Furthermore, there are millions of native-born
American citizens with Aztec and/or Spanish ancestry.  So the entire
issue of race is a giant red herring.

> I guess, maybe you (all in the debate) need to answer the
> question of what you consider an "illegal immigrant" ...

That's an immigrant who is here illegally.  The premise is that
boundaries and borders matter.  Those who think otherwise are called
traitors.  This observation is particularly important at the local
level -- where the impact of mass immigration and continual growth
are so devastating to the maintenance of community.

> All not acceptable?

My community is not a doormat.  Illegal immigrants have one
acceptable option; they can leave.

> How about your ancestry?

Native-born for seven generations.

> I understand the issues are complex ...

But one facet is the most important.  Capitalism needs mass
immigration to maintain continual growth.  So the open-borders
goofballs who parade in the streets are allied with the developers
who ravage the landscape with tract housing and strip malls.

"Si, se puede!" said the Wall Street investment banker.

> I lean towards the civil libertarian, humanitarian side.
> I think we have plenty to share.

Then you're not paying attention.  The country is in a state of
massive overshoot.  The federal debt pales in comparison with our
ecological debt.

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Dwayne Voegeli wrote:

> Regarding the assertion that since my ancestors came here
> legally, so should "they."
> 
> Is it fair to compare then and now?
> 
> Wasn't America a wee bit different 100 or more years ago?
> 
> More land for starters?

Yes, the population of this land is already way past a sustainable
level.  It only SEEMS sustainable as long as the fossil fuel orgy
continues.  But that party is just about over.  The higher the
population climbs, the more people will ultimately suffer in the
crash.  That's why opposition to mass immigration is so critical.

What will all of you do when the grocery shelves are empty?
Or are you in denial about limits?

Mark Knapp




 
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