[Winona Online Democracy]

Craig asked that I forward my message to him to the forum.  Ruth
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Craig Brooks 
To: Ruth Marg 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Instant Runoff Voting Legal Challenges


would you send this to the whole group or I could forward it.  You make good 
points and provide useful info.
Craig







----- Original Message ----
From: Ruth Marg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Craig Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:18:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Instant Runoff Voting Legal Challenges


Craig you asked if Winona School Board could go to district wide seats.  If the 
law hasn't changed it is up to the board to decide if they want district wide 
representation by each board member.  Quite some time ago when the two extra 
seats where added they added as at-large members.  The talk at that time was if 
all seats were at large, only the people of the city of Winona might be 
represented because outlying areas had smaller populations and probably 
couldn't win a seat.   They divide the district up by population.    Lots of 
this was at the time of closing schools in rural areas and citizens felt that 
not only would they lose their school but also the vote.   Ruth Marg
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Craig Brooks 
  To: WOD 
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:21 AM
  Subject: [Winona] Instant Runoff Voting Legal Challenges


  [Winona Online Democracy]




  I still support going to IRV for our elections.  Having it tested out in 
Mpls. would be very useful.  I hope this challenge fails.
  Does anyone know if our School Board can go to all seats being district wide 
instead of having most be representing only specific geographic areas?  If that 
could happen, I really think IRA would work well for School Board elections.  
It could save time and money by not needing to have a Primary.  What do you 
think?
  Craig Brooks
  **************************************

    
  Minneapolis' instant-runoff voting plan may be unconstitutional
  Debate rages over whether a 1915 Duluth precedent poses constitutional issues 
for the method passed by Minneapolis voters.

  By Steve Brandt, Star Tribune

  Last update: September 19, 2007 – 11:21 PM

  Minneapolis voters have approved a plan for instant-runoff voting, but the 
state constitution may not allow it, according to a new attorney general's 
opinion. 
  The opinion, obtained by the Star Tribune, doesn't explicitly say the 
Minneapolis system of ranking candidates in order of preference is 
unconstitutional.

  But it concludes that if the closest case to a precedent is followed, 
instant-runoff voting probably isn't permitted by the state constitution.

  The voting method requires voters to rank candidates in order of preference. 
If no candidate gains a majority, the lowest candidate is dropped and the 
second-place votes cast by supporters of that candidate are added to the 
remaining candidates. The process continues until one candidate gains a 
majority.

  Minneapolis voters approved the change in 2005, and city officials have been 
trying to institute it for the 2009 city election. 

  The new opinion fans a debate that had already been raging between supporters 
and opponents of instant runoff.

  Opponents have threatened a legal challenge, citing a 1915 Minnesota Supreme 
Court case that struck down a Duluth system that also ranked voters.

  Minneapolis, Duluth differences

  But supporters, such as Roseville lawyer Bruce Kennedy, say there are 
important distinctions between the Minneapolis approach and the Duluth method 
struck down by the court.

  In Minneapolis, when the first-place votes of those supporting the 
lowest-ranking candidate are eliminated, they are replaced one-for-one by their 
second-choice votes. In Duluth, the second-choice votes were added to the 
first-choice votes.

  The latter approach effectively gave some voters more weight than others, the 
court said in finding the Duluth provision unconstitutional.

  Andrew Cilek, an opponent trying to challenge the Minneapolis system, called 
the opinion "interesting. We feel the same way." 

  The attorney general's opinion also finds statutory issues with 
instant-runoff voting.

  It said that although cities with their own charters such as Minneapolis have 
substantial authority, other law preempts local charter power when it comes to 
general elections.

  'Interested in what the courts say'

  It also suggests that the secretary of state's office needs to adopt rules to 
permit experimental use of instant runoff.

  Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said the attorney general's response went 
beyond the questions he posed about procedures for instant runoff. "I'm 
interested in what the courts say," he said in reaction to the constitutional 
warning.

  In Minneapolis, Council Member Elizabeth Glidden chairs the council's 
Election Committee. "We recognize that there is not perfect clarity on this 
issue," she said. "We think that the body of existing law will support our 
decision to use ranked-choice voting."

  Meanwhile, a group of state and local election officials working to install 
instant-runoff voting plans to meet again in January to consider changes to be 
sought in the 2008 Legislature.

  Steve Brandt • 612-673-4438

  Steve Brandt • [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  © 2007 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.







  _______________________________________________
  This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy
  All messages must be signed by the senders actual name.
  No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list.
  To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit
  http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona
  Any problems or suggestions can be directed to 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page 
at
   http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org

_______________________________________________
This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy
All messages must be signed by the senders actual name.
No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list.
To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit
http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona
Any problems or suggestions can be directed to 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at
 http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org

Reply via email to