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Kirby Kuehl
Winfingerprint author and winpcap user. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WinPcap-users] licence query - request to distribute
WinPcap/WinDump

We would like to include WinPcap and WinDump on the Windows Toolbox
compilation of software but your licencing restrictions present a
problem. The clause we have difficulty with in particular is this:

"all advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
software display the following
acknowledgement:
"This product includes software developed by the Politecnico di
Torino, and its contributors." "

There are perhaps currently another 185 different software
applications on the Windows Toolbox. The above restriction that "all"
advertising would require us to mention the acknowledgement when
merely advertising the "features or use of" the Windows Toolbox, when
we possibly aren't mentioning the names of any other applications,
seems an enormously disproportionate restriction. A couple of other
authors' software, whose licences are based on the old BSD licence,
require us to mention in our copyright section that their code is
included but no others have the far reaching clause of your licence

Is there a way for us to work around this so that we can include
WinPcap and WinDump?

Below i've included the standard request for permission when required
that I've been sending to authors, so as to help give you some idea
of our Windows Toolbox project:
  
'We have compiled a collection of useful software for Windows called
the Windows Toolbox. Its purpose is to provide a complete collection
of consistantly high quality, integrated and useful applications in
one place, aswell as our own utilities and technical tutorials. This
compilation has existed and evolved in virtual form on the web for
the past three and a half years (it is currently at
http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/). Now we would like to
distribute it on CD, not for financial profit, and require your
permission to include your software

We have lists on the web of the software contained in the Windows
Toolbox, differentiated by that which is currently unambiguously
legally re-distributable: 
http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/software.html and that which
is not or is unsure: 
http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/non-redist-software.html

So as to provide further description for you, this is the standard
project description for the Windows Toolbox: "The Windows Toolbox is
a comprehensive collection of software and information for Windows -a
toolbox of high quality applications and utilities for a wide array
of functions, all freely re-distributable and under Free, Open
Source, Freeware, Shareware or similar licences; documents on
installing, configuring and maintaining Windows and various software
applications, for stability, performance, usability and security. The
contents are constantly and consistantly updated with new and
upgraded software and documentation.

You can download the software applications individually using our
links to their various web sites; or hopefully in future we'll offer
the compilation as a download that can be written to CD/DVD; or you
can obtain a copy on CD by sending �4 (payable in UK postal orders or
1st class stamps; international prices are yet to be worked out) to
The Golden Ear, p.o. box 55, Bridge 5 Mill, 22a Beswick Street, M4
7HR, UK."

The Windows Toolbox not only comprises software applications but
scripts we have written for automating the configuration of Windows
and applications, and documents we have written on installing,
configuring and using the various applications, all tried and tested
in the field by us

This collection has a growing respect on the web; currently it
already provides a gateway to trusted, tested, worthwhile software;
it is similar to distributions from TheOpenCD
(http://www.theopencd.org/), GNUWin (http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/) and
Kansas City Linux User Group
(http://www.kclug.org/archives/2002/oct/0019.shtml).

We want to get the software and documentation distributed as widely
as possible. We intend to apply for grants to get copies pressed up
that can be given away at places where people train to use computers
at drop-in centres and colleges; at gatherings where the people
attending are likely to be computer users; bundled with magazines and
newspapers; etcetera, etcetera. We would also like to offer it as an
ISO image freely downloadable from our web site.

We intend to distribute in a number of ways in differing situations:
completely freely; for the cost of the media; for the cost of the
media plus a donation. The cost of the media will be for the CD(s),
case, ink, paper, postage, etcetera. Donation would be non-compulsary
and any amount would be the recipient's choice; the donation would be
toward the time spent making this compilation. We will in no way be
seeking to use this as a profit making venture - we survive already
by doing computer support for non-profit organisations and are
politically against making more money than we need to live humbly on
and recognise that the majority of the work is yours in writing the
software and we wouldn't want to divert money away from yourselves -
but we believe it fair to ask for donational payment toward the cost
of keeping this extensive project alive. We intend to apply for
grants to pay for pressing up thousands of discs and for publicity
but we are in no way guaranteed to receive funds this way

If you choose not to grant us permission to distribute your software
then it would be appreciated if you could provide the reason for this
so that we know the potential changes we could make in our means of
distribution that would allow us to distribute your software

Hopefully you like what we're upto and will be able to give us your
permission. We hope to hear from you soon'

Pete



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