On 06.12.2019 18:08, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:06 PM Jordan Glover
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 8:24 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <[email protected]> 
wrote:

If we can make nft coexistance work reliably, perhaps we can run the
nft rule on systems where the nft binary simply exists.

Will this work correctly on systems where nft binary exist but only
iptables rules are used?
That's what I meant by, "if we can make nft coexistance work reliably."


Take a look at the table on the bottom of this page
https://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/Troubleshooting#Question_4._How_do_nftables_and_iptables_interact_when_used_on_the_same_system.3F

On my system their rules coexist fine. Both nftables and iptables are just high level interfaces to kernel netfilter hooks after all, if either of them drop the packet then the packet is dropped. It is also possible to write the same filter using iptables, not as easy and not as beautiful as nft though. Finally wireguard can do this directly interacting with netfilter as the last resort.

I'd like if kernel developers reconsider the default system behavior on this... It is so stupid that the system expose all its IPs on all interfaces by default. But Linus don't like patches that break things and this will break some bad network setups, yes weak and insecure but still.
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