Some differences:
* Bluesocket uses web-based interface for authentication, which makes support of PDA or other non-prevailing OSs possible/easier. As I know, lots of VPN solutions require client software. Usually they just don't support PalmOS, WindowCE or MAC or Linux. etc
* Bluesocket gives users options. They could choose to use VPN if they think their data need to be encrypted;  or not to use VPN, which is easier for those who don't bother to learn. 
* Bluesocket supports more than just Radius or LDAP authentication.  It could pass 802.1x authentication packet transparently. Users could also choose NTLM, MAC device authentication (e,g wireless LAN cell phone), local user database authentciation.  So there's more space left for user to choose.
*  Bluesocket also supports more detailed controls such as those based on user, role, location, port.

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Wayne State University
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Bradford B. Saul wrote:
Our setup:

AP -> VPN Concentrator -> RADIUS -> LDAP

All AP's are on a Layer 2 only VLAN with the VPN as the only way out.  We
have full RADIUS accounting which tracks addresses, starts, stops, data
rates.  We are only allowing IP through the VPN, so that takes care of
protocols.  Only users with valid LDAP credentials can auth.  We require
VPN-encryption and disallow split-horizon.

So with all that said, are there still differences I am missing???

Thanks....

Brad


  
A vpn concentrator is exactly that, device that terminates vpn
tunnels.  The blue socket wireless gateway does much more than that.  We
use ours to ensure that no one gets anywhere past the edges of the wireless
lan without a valid university account to authenticate at the box. Users
can choose to or not to vpn-encrypt their session.  The box logs addresses,
it can allow only certain protocols to certain addresses, it's really a
good product. Aside from some growing pains, we like ours.

-Rick


At 08:28 AM 10/9/2003, Bradford B. Saul wrote:
    
Ok, so what is the real difference between Bluesocket and a VPN
concentrator?  They seem to perform the same function.  Why would I use
Bluesocket vs. VPN?

Brad
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