I'd love to use 5g radios but that's not going to happen.  I've considered
preaching the 11a gospel to the other institution on the chance they might
convert  ;+)

...thanks for the response........J

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, John J. Brassil wrote:

> It works OK - our engineering school recently completed a new wing that has
> a large central atrium similar to the one you describe.  This is an
> extremely dense environment for RF - 84 APs for this single wing!  They
> wanted as much throughput as possible, so our contractor designed a
> picocell network with as many as 3 APs in a single room, one on 1, one on 6
> and one on 11, dialed to 1mW and in some cases futher attenuated with
> inline 10 and 25 dB resistors (I know resistors aren't measured in dB but
> that's the net effect of the attenuation.)
>
> Unfortuanely, depspite their best efforts, there is still a lot of leakage
> outside the intended coverage areas - not a lot of signal strength, but
> single- and low double-digit signal strength from non-primary APs in lots
> of areas, the worst of which is the atrium which has at least 5 devices
> visible  to Netstumbler or AirMagnet in most places on all three channels!
>
> We haven't benchmarked the throughput rates but I would imagine they are
> not full rate (we fix our APs at 11mbps) but my laptop at least has been
> able to hold a connection in there every time I have tried.  Others' MMV.
>
> The good news is that it all still works.  For the situation you are
> describing, I wouldn't screw around with 4 channels, that's just a hack
> since the frequencies are what they are and playing games with 1 5 9 & 11
> or some other such silliness doesn't change that.  Keep your same channel
> APs as far apart as possible and do the best you can.
>
> Or buy some 5MHz radios and do it properly. :)
>
> John
>
> John J. Brassil | Network Engineer, Vanderbilt Data/Video Engineering
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> --On Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:33 PM -0500 James Savage
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >   We're sharing a building with another institution and must also share
> > the airspace.  We've agreed to go to the four non-overlapping channel
> > model instead of three.  Each institution will use two channels.  This is
> > my first shot at full building coverage and foresee channel interference
> > issues as I'm restricted to two instead of three channels.  Presumably,
> > this can be addressed with directional antennas and adjustment of signal
> > strength but I thought I might ask more experienced folks who might have
> > already experimented with channel interference.  If two APs operating on
> > the same channel can 'hear' each other, is it simply a throughput hit or
> > do things just not work at all?  Presumably, there's a relationship to
> > how close the APs are to each other (signal strength-wise)...'closer'
> > means more interference?  Also, the amount of traffic is a factor as
> > well?  This particular building has a central open area surrounded by
> > offices/classrooms with glass windows overlooking the open space. The
> > signal seems to easily penetrate the glass and cover the open space as
> > well.....ie....I have multiple APs operating on the same channel bleeding
> > into the open space.  Is this a show-stopper for the open space or is it
> > possibly a slow but liveable scenario?
> >
> > ....advice or comments are greatly appreciated.
> >
> > ......thanks in advance.........Jamie
> >
> > James Savage                              York University
> > Senior Com. Tech.                         108 Steacie Bldg.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                          4700 Keele Street
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James Savage                              York University
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]                          4700 Keele Street
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