Your project of multi-SSID VLAN support seems like the direction we want
to go into in the near future.  We already have multiple SSIDs at our
institution that are configured similar to what you described.  But, the
big question is how do I make sure users are "confined" to those
VLANs/SSIDs without having to touch client computers or having
directions that are so complicated for our students (especially).

MAC authentication may work to a point.  But what I really need is the
ability to have two things:

1.  University machines - Dynamic encryption, VLAN/SSID security,
minimal client computer configuration.
2.  Student machines - Encryption optional, confined VLAN/SSID (ideally
something dynamic so that users could be quarantined to a specific VLAN,
registered, and then dynamically connect to another more secure
VLAN/SSID), no touching of student machines.

(Oh yea...one more thing...can we do it with no cost accept maybe some
of me and my network teams time???  It is tough being a small public
liberal arts institution in a state where they are cutting state funding
and looking to higher education to take the brunt of the cuts.)

Any advice anyone?

Thanks,

D. Michael Martin, Jr.
Network Administrator
University of Montevallo


-----Original Message-----
From: Metzler, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] RADIUS authentication

It provides a super-set of RADIUS, so no it should work with other
devices
that support RADIUS.  I haven't used it that way yet, but I'm pretty
confident it would work.

With CISCO equipment it can be configured to do a host of other things.
The
reason we purchased it is that it gives us the ability to configure a
cisco
modem pool to dictate which IP address you get based on what Global
Group
you're a member of.

We are testing the set up on our wireless network to try and facilitate
a
multi-SSID access point that uses the CISCO VLAN support support a
public/broadcast SSID for general student and conference work, but
provides
a secure encrypted SSID that has access to more of our  network. We're
configuring it in such a way that Access to the secure network would be
controlled based on membership in our facultyandstaff global group. What
people have access to is then controlled by simple router access lists.
It
works well when you've got virtual lans in your network architecture.

I'm pretty sure that the cisco extensions would be required to
facilitate
this setup, but if you're just talking about a RADIUS server, this would
do
the job.

As was mentioned in another post, if you have cisco equipment, you can
use
the network accounts to control access to your switches as well.


David Metzler
Network Services
The Evergreen State College
360-867-6728 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.evergreen.edu/netservices


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] RADIUS authentication


David,
Does the Cisco ACS secure only work with the Cisco Access point?

-----Original Message-----
From: 802.11 wireless issues listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Metzler, David
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] RADIUS authentication


Cisco also has a product called Cisco ACS Secure, which will provide
pass-through authentication to your Active Directory Databases.  We've
been
using this product to provide RADIUS authentication against windows
domain
accounts since NT 4.0.  We are using this to Authenticate our modem
pool,
and are working on deploying this to authenticate our Cisco Access
points. I
think the product was less than 3k last I checked.

David Metzler
Network Services
The Evergreen State College
360-867-6728 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.evergreen.edu/netservices


> Is anyone out there using Microsoft Internet Authentication Service
> (IAS) for RADIUS authentication with their wireless access points? (We
> use Cisco 802.11b/g radios...Aironet 340s, 350s, 1100s)
>
>
>
> IAS is free and included with Microsoft Windows 2000 Server and we
> have needed to get into using RADIUS authentication with our wireless
> implementation.  Using PEAP, EAP, etc.. and 802.1x is not out of the
> question (at least long term) but I have many applications were MAC
> authentication is the only recourse (wireless printers, bridges,
> etc...).
>
>
>
> Any advice (or help) would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> D. Michael Martin, Jr.
>
> Network Administrator
>
> University of Montevallo
>
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