Are you filtering ICMP on your firewalls?  Or filtering
on your routers  (like 'no ip unreachables')?

Can you enable MTU's bigger than 1500 on your infrastructure?

Dale


On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Wyman Miles wrote:

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We've been seeing some MTU discovery issues on our wireless network for some time now. The key symptom is wireless clients whose local firewall drops fragmented packets can't reach certain sites (Google and its fellows,
most notably).

That's the effect, not the cause.

According to our IDS, the wireless routers are sending ICMP 3:4s [frags needed && DF set] to the remote sites which presumably eat or ignore them. What none of my sniffs can find are ICMP 3:4s sent to the wireless clients themselves. Nothing, not a one. As the tunnel between AC and AP obscures
what may be the missing 3:4s, I can't say they're not being generated.
What I can say for certain they're not appearing on the wireless side of
things.

There's a growing blame-the-firewall movement with obvious deleterious
effects, so I'm eager to solve this problem.

Anyone else seen this on their wireless LANs? We're Chantry, but I presume
any vendor that uses some tunnel between the access points and access
controllers is at risk for the same behavior (Cisco/GRE, Aruba/ IPSec, etc).

Any ideas?

Wyman Miles
Senior Security Engineer
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY
(607) 255-8421
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