Tom,

Let me state up front that I'm a big CBA (as you call it) proponent and that we use the Aruba product line at Emory.

I agree with your advantage 3 points listed (roaming, fast hand-off & automagic radio control), but there are others you missed.

1) Single ingress point for wireless traffic to your wired network (at the controller) - this gives you a single place to create VLANs/subnets for different SSIDs or groups of users. I can add a new SSID to support a specific group (guest users, for example) and create one VLAN/subnet at the controller for that group - all wireless traffic is tunneled back to the controller by the AP. With fat APs I'd have to create VLANs or VLAN instances at each AP where I want presence for that SSID.

2) Built-in firewall/Role-based Access Control (at least on the Aruba products and some others). With the single point of ingress, I can treat the wireless traffic as untrusted and control access based on user (or machine) authentication. Even if the CBA you choose doesn't have built -in firewalling, you can still use the single ingress point as a location to place a firewall/wireless gateway to control traffic.

3) Built-in WIDS/WIPS (again, depending on the manufacturer) - The ability to have tightly coupled APs monitoring your airspace for rogue APs, ad-hoc nets, wireless attacks, etc. without having to deploy an overlay wireless monitoring network can add a lot of value. A really cool aspect to this is location tracking - physically finding a rogue AP or client that is causing problems.

4) Ease of deployment & management - AP configurations are handled automatically. My APs DHCP for an IP address, and get their config from the controller, and are up and running my wireless networks. At Emory, we deployed all of our Residence Halls (over 50 buildings and 450 APs) in less than 4 months with a minimal staff (myself and a couple of part timers doing surveying, design, & AP configuration, and 5 teams of contractors pulling cable). AP configuration involved setting a location code - all other configuration came from the controller and was managed as groups of APs.

We used AMP for managing our Colubris APs before we chose Aruba, and did not have the control or ease of management that our tightly coupled CBA solution offers.

There are other advantages, these are just a few off the top of my head. Ok, time to get off my soap box :-)


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-------- Original Message --------
From: Zeller, Tom S
Date: 6/23/2006 9:43 AM

I would be interested in other opinions on the following analysis of this issue:

   1. Using AirWave’s AMP management platform has almost eliminated the
management advantage of the controller-based architecture (CBA). AMP monitors, reports, and updates Fat APs just fine. Also, some
      CBAs don’t yet have a single management platform for multiple
      controllers.
   2. CBA is considerably more expensive, in the 1.5 – 2.0 x range
      compared to Fat APs
   3. The other advantages of CBA boil down to the following.  If others
      I’d like to hear.  And if these are fictitious, also of interest:
         1. Roaming, theoretically across an entire campus, without
            requiring a single vlan
         2. Significantly faster handoff between APs due to 802.1x keys
            on the controller, important for voice support.
         3. Automagic dense AP deployment from radio feedback to and
            adjustments from controller (or Meru’s approach).

Obviously I’m considering sticking with Fat APs for another few years and allowing the CBA products to mature, but I ain’t got no religion here, and would welcome success/horror stories from large scale CBA deployments.

Tom Zeller

Indiana University

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