Peap and ttls doesn't require a cert on the client side. They use a cert on the server side when you connect to the wireless lan. You may need to install a CA cert on the client side if you have your own Public Key Infrastructure and the cert is your own instead of from a CA that the client already trusts.
There is an option that your need to uncheck when using the built in windows supplicant with peap if you don't want windows to automatically feed the logged in username and password to authenticate you to the wireless. Once unchecked, it pops up a box for you to authenticate. There are some issues that you may find with using peap however. 1. Outer authentication sends the actual username. Since the outer authentication of peap is unencrypted, the user name gets sent in the clear. If anyone out there knows how to change this on Windows XP, please let me know. 2. PEAP hashes the password with ms-chapv2. So the hashed password is what the radius server is going to get when the user tries to authenticate. It is going to then pass that on to the ldap server for authentication. If the ldap server cannot understand ms-chapv2 hashed passwords, the you may not be able to authenticate. I had this issue and ended up switching from ldap authentication to windows domain authentication (Using Funk's Steel Belted Radius) to get it to work. If you use ttls, there is a free supplicant on windows which should allow you to use PAP, which is just username and password. http://www.securew2.com/uk/index.htm Let me know how it goes. Btw, what wireless system are you using? WIRELESS-LAN automatic digest system wrote: > There are 5 messages totalling 449 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. 802.1x authentication using LDAP (5) > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:50:34 -0300 > From: Matt Ashfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > Hi All > > I'm trying to configure 802.1x wireless authentication using credentials > stored in LDAP. > > I am running FreeRadius and SunOne ldap server. The Radius server is > correctly doing authentication attempts to the LDAP server (I issue the > "radtest" command with a username/passwd from LDAP and I get an > authenticate-accept back). > > The next step is setting up an XP client to talk to an Access Point, = > which > is configured to authenticate via the Raidus server, via LDAP. So far, = > in my > minimal testing, I've seen the client try to connect using it's Windows > credentials rather than giving the user a chance to enter a > username/password. > > I'm sure others out there are doing this. I'm just wondering what you're > using? EAP-TLS, PEAP, etc..? I guess I need to get my acronyms straight > first and go from there. > > From what I can tell PEAP will require my users to install a = > certificate. > We'd much rather prefer them to have to enter their LDAP usernames and > passwords.=20 > > Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks > > > Matt Ashfield > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:13:39 -0400 > From: "King, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > Hi Matt. > > I'm going to answer your questions, and also point out something you've > missed. > > You are using PEAP (if your are using the XP Client, you are using PEAP) > > To tell PEAP not to use your logon creditialas, but to prompt for it, > you have to uncheck something that is buried 3 menu's deep. > > See here for directions: > http://www.informit.com/guides/content.asp?g=3Dsecurity&seqNum=3D74&rl=3D= > 1 > > See figure 7 for details > > BUT.... > > I don't think this will work for you. (I'm making some assumptions > about your network that could prove me wrong) > I assume you have Active Directory, with freeradius querying this via > LDAP? > If it is, this setup won't work for you. ActiveDirectory, in the usual > Microsoft methodailty, embraces standards, and extends them with > proprietary extensions. =20 > What does this mean? It means by default you can't get passwords out of > AD. You could store passwords in plaintext. (Bad idea) > > You need to setup FreeRadius using the ntlm_auth helper program. You > install Samba on the FreeRadius Box, join it to the domain, and > configure freeradius to perform Auth's via ntlm_auth. Then freeRadius > will have no problem talking to ActiveDirectory. You can still use the > LDAP module to assign attributes. (This was on the freeradius mailing > list last week) > > Hope this helped. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Ashfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > Hi All > > I'm trying to configure 802.1x wireless authentication using credentials > stored in LDAP. > > I am running FreeRadius and SunOne ldap server. The Radius server is > correctly doing authentication attempts to the LDAP server (I issue the > "radtest" command with a username/passwd from LDAP and I get an > authenticate-accept back). > > The next step is setting up an XP client to talk to an Access Point, > which is configured to authenticate via the Raidus server, via LDAP. So > far, in my minimal testing, I've seen the client try to connect using > it's Windows credentials rather than giving the user a chance to enter a > username/password. > > I'm sure others out there are doing this. I'm just wondering what you're > using? EAP-TLS, PEAP, etc..? I guess I need to get my acronyms straight > first and go from there. > > From what I can tell PEAP will require my users to install a > certificate. > We'd much rather prefer them to have to enter their LDAP usernames and > passwords.=20 > > Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks > > > Matt Ashfield > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:16:22 -0400 > From: Philippe Hanset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > Matt, > > Since you are not in a Active Directory environment, > it will require a lot of "gymanstics" to make EAP-PEAP > work Windows. > If you want to do testing, load the client from SecureW2, it works > very well in a Free-Radius/LDAP environment. > > get the client at www.securew2.com, it's free and open-source > (Thanks to the Dutchmen) > > You can see some of our installation instructions at > http://wireless.utk.edu/1x/ > > Just skip the certificate installation in our instructions. > > Philippe Hanset > University of Tennessee > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Matt Ashfield wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I'm trying to configure 802.1x wireless authentication using credentials >> stored in LDAP. >> >> I am running FreeRadius and SunOne ldap server. The Radius server is >> correctly doing authentication attempts to the LDAP server (I issue the >> "radtest" command with a username/passwd from LDAP and I get an >> authenticate-accept back). >> >> The next step is setting up an XP client to talk to an Access Point, which >> is configured to authenticate via the Raidus server, via LDAP. So far, in my >> minimal testing, I've seen the client try to connect using it's Windows >> credentials rather than giving the user a chance to enter a >> username/password. >> >> I'm sure others out there are doing this. I'm just wondering what you're >> using? EAP-TLS, PEAP, etc..? I guess I need to get my acronyms straight >> first and go from there. >> >> From what I can tell PEAP will require my users to install a certificate. >> We'd much rather prefer them to have to enter their LDAP usernames and >> passwords. >> >> Any advice is appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Matt Ashfield >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 14:23:40 -0500 > From: Michael Griego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > --Apple-Mail-8-46845056 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > delsp=yes; > format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hey, Matt, > > This setup is actually almost identical to what we're doing here at > UT Dallas. > > As is commonly seen on the FreeRADIUS mailing lists, I think you may > be confusing how to use PEAP with LDAP a little. In order to use > PEAP with LDAP, you don't use LDAP "authentication" in FreeRADIUS. > You have to store either a cleartext password or an NTLMv2 password > hash in your LDAP directory for each of your users. Be sure if you > do this to set appropriate ACLs on the attribute containing the > password/hash so that only the RADIUS connect profile can get to that > attribute. In any case, once you've done this, the LDAP module goes > in your authorize section in FR so that it can pull the password or > hash out and use it to perform the authentication itself using the > mschap module. > > Also, for PEAP, you only need a certificate for your RADIUS servers > to authenticate the network to the users. Your users don't need > personal certificates as they would using EAP-TLS. If you purchase a > commercial certificate from one of the CAs included by default in > your client OSes, then you don't have to install anything on the > clients and just have to configure them for access. > > These links might be useful for you: > > UTD's 802.1x setup instructions for Windows XP: > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/cats/network/wlan/8021x/winxp/index.html > > I actually gave an Educause Live presentation on UTD's 802.1x > deployment. Its archived here: > http://www.educause.edu/LIVE058 > > Hope that helps! > > --Mike > > On Jul 7, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Matt Ashfield wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I'm trying to configure 802.1x wireless authentication using >> credentials >> stored in LDAP. >> >> I am running FreeRadius and SunOne ldap server. The Radius server is >> correctly doing authentication attempts to the LDAP server (I issue >> the >> "radtest" command with a username/passwd from LDAP and I get an >> authenticate-accept back). >> >> The next step is setting up an XP client to talk to an Access >> Point, which >> is configured to authenticate via the Raidus server, via LDAP. So >> far, in my >> minimal testing, I've seen the client try to connect using it's >> Windows >> credentials rather than giving the user a chance to enter a >> username/password. >> >> I'm sure others out there are doing this. I'm just wondering what >> you're >> using? EAP-TLS, PEAP, etc..? I guess I need to get my acronyms >> straight >> first and go from there. >> >> From what I can tell PEAP will require my users to install a >> certificate. >> We'd much rather prefer them to have to enter their LDAP usernames and >> passwords. >> >> Any advice is appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Matt Ashfield >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http:// >> www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > --Apple-Mail-8-46845056 > Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; > name=smime.p7s > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename=smime.p7s > > MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIITNjCCA9gw > 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15:25:57 -0400 > From: "King, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 802.1x authentication using LDAP > > =20 > > -----Original Message----- > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Matt Ashfield wrote: > >> I am running FreeRadius and SunOne ldap server.=20 > > Whoops, missed that part. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ------------------------------ > > End of WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 4 Jul 2006 to 7 Jul 2006 (#2006-98) > **************************************************************** -- Robert Taylor Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-258-5048 -- Robert Taylor Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-258-5048 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
