At Emory, we've been using PEAP authentication for our wireless users for almost a year, now. We originally decided on a VPN security model for wireless 2-3 years ago, and currently support both VPN and WPA/WPA2 with PEAP. Our wireless hardware (Aruba) makes it easy to support both VPN and WPA - and has scaled very well as we've grown the network.

Last fall, we started testing WPA authentication. We announced its general availability last January at the start of spring semester. This fall for Move-in weekend, we decided to "force" the adoption WPA authentication in the Res halls by disabling VPN and guest access (only in our ResNet). All of our student housing - dorms, apartments, Frat & sorority houses - are fully covered with wireless.

The BIG issue with PEAP is the initial connection. We have one page fliers with configuration directions for PCs/Macs and automated WinXP/Mac scripts for configuring PEAP that was integrated into our Emory On-Line CD. Even with these directions and scripts, we had a very high "touch" rate for students on Move-in weekend. The good news is that once it's set up, it (usually) doesn't need any additional support. We've got some ResTechs that are very adept at "fixing" ornery machines :-)

We are using Microsoft IAS as the authentication server - we have two running for redundancy. They use our back-end AD to authenticate against. The only issue we've had is that even with Verisign signed cert on each RADIUS server, we still have to manually accept the cert (only once) the first time the client authenticates.

Currently, we are in the process of "sunsetting" wireless VPN access because of the much better user experience that WPA with PEAP provides - automatic connection and authentication with cached user credentials on most clients; you turn on your wireless enabled laptop and it has authenticated network connectivity with encryption - no muss, no fuss after the first connection.

Some numbers...

We've seen our wireless usage grow tremendously over the last year. Our WPA users grew from a handful of test users to 250 simultaneous users at the end of spring semester. That compares to about 550 peak simultaneous VPN users. During Move-in weekend, we experienced a peak simultaneous WPA user count of over 1650 (total peak wireless user count is around 1840). Our VPN usage is now down to a peak of about 150 simultaneous users and we are working to drive that down even further in preparation for sunsetting VPN support.

Currently, we have about 890 APs serving the university, including about 500 in ResNet.

>>-> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
     Emory University
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Stephen Holland
Date: 9/22/2006 12:04 PM

I have two questions for the list

1) We are looking into implementing PEAP and I would be interested to know
how others have implemented it , issues that came up, number of users, and
any other insights you might have.

2)  We have some address space issues and the use of NAT has been proposed.
I am of the opinion that NAT is not the optimal solution in the EDU
environment because somebody always  develops an application that breaks
it.  However, I would be interested to know what other folks on the list
think about the use of NAT.

Thanks so much

Stephen Holland
Network Engineer
Northeastern University

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