Matt,

It seems that either way (802.1x or Web based authentication)
you have to block between authentication and authorization.
Return the LDAP status field (student/fac/staff), and if
source is Faculty subnet and status field is Student > deny

With 802.1x, in the Radiator Radius server, I can check to originating
SSID then introduce a condition (PERL script!)in my config that matches
SSID and LDAP fields. (don't count on IP addresses with 802.1x...it's a layer 2
protocol!)

With a Web front end, you know the originating IP address (GetIP!)
compare it to the LDAP field that you care about.


Philippe Hanset
University of Tennessee

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, Matt Ashfield wrote:

> For those of you who are using multiple SSID's, how are you ensuring
> that the clients connect to the same one?

>
> For example, if we were to do 2 ssid's, one for staff, one for students,
> we'd have to find a way that would prevent students from connecting to the
> staff ssid and vice-versa, because they'd be authenticating against the same
> LDAP database (ie, same field names).
>
> Cheers
>
> Matt
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: November 7, 2006 4:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How many SSID's?
>
> Tom,
>
> Running multiple SSIDs will eat some channel bandwidth.  Each SSID will
> beacon around 10 times a second, so 6 SSIDs means 60 beacons a second.
>
> Also, most clients behave badly when different SSIDs share the same
> BSSID (wireless MAC of the AP), so may sure your vendor supports
> multiple BSSIDs.  This is usually limited by the underlying wireless
> chipset.  Our vendor, Aruba, supports 8 BSSIDs/radio.  I prefer to limit
> the number of SSIDs to a smaller number than our hard limit of 8 - 4 to
> 5 SSIDs at any one AP (but I am getting some pressure to address some
> "one-off" networks in some areas).
>
> In looking over your list, I would suggest combining  the VPN and guest
> SSIDs as both are open access, and your VPN server is probably reachable
> through what ever guest firewall rules you've applied.
>
> We've not addressed the appliances like TiVo or game consoles for
> wireless access - they are "not supported at this time".  A separate
> SSID is an interesting way to handle those devices.
>
> All of our authenticated users are coming in via WPA/802.1x or VPN (from
> our guest SSID).  We haven't signed up for EduRoam, so we support
> visiting scholars through our guest SSID - they just have to VPN to
> their home school or organization.
>
> Additionally, we have a separate wireless network for our Healthcare
> organization (3+ hospitals, etc) which has a WPA/802.1x SSID as well as
> guest access SSID and Wireless ViOP SSID.  We are investigating the
> ramifications of merging the two networks together into a single managed
> network.
>
>  >>-> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
>       Emory University
>       Network Communications Division
>       404.727.0226
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Tom Zeller
> Date: 11/7/2006 12:12 PM
>
> > I am also thinking about using multiple SSIDs and I'm wondering how
> > significant the overhead is.  Without working too hard I can think of 6
> > distinct networks:
> >
> > 1. Legacy VPN-protected
> > 2. 802.1x
> > 3. Guest
> > 4. EduRoam
> >     (Travelling scholars  can use their home RADIUS server to use WiFi)
> > 5. Ad Hoc local department network with legit special need (Health
> Center?)
> > 6. Appliances - for Tivos, game consoles, whatever.
> >    access via mac address registration
> >    access to internet, with some blocks, but not campus
> >    perhaps access across the dorm network
> >
> >
> > Tom Zeller
> > Indiana University
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 812-855-6214
> >
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