802.3af does indeed have the ability to support GigE by combining power and data on a pair. In fact, a good portion of the 802.3af spec is focused on providing this ability without damaging devices that don't support it.

--Mike

On Jun 27, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Enfield, Chuck wrote:

Since we can't do 3af power with GigE, that one connection would have to be 100Mb. If we're going to use two cables for power let's hope we'll be given
the chance to use two data channels as well.

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] The strategic importance of 5GHz

The Airwave webinar (for which a link was sent round last week) mentioned that some vendors are looking at providing two Ethernet sockets on MIMO / 802.11n Access Points, so they could draw 2 x 802.3af power connections and
one live Ethernet connection.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Bulk - iNAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 June 2007 02:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] The strategic importance of 5GHz

Dale:

I've heard from at least one vendor that a b/g radio with and 802.11n
radio may operate within 802.3af power limits. But I've heard nothing
absolutely definite so far and I anticipate that we'll know more by
the end of
the
summer as these products move from short-run samples to production.

The whole 802.11n PoE and GigE port thing really puts most
organizations
into a pickle...they can cheat with using 100BaseT at the edge but if
you
really want to do full 802.11n on two radios it's going to necessitate
a
midspan, PoE injectors, or a new switch (and that will be at least a
year
away).  If vendors can make an AP with an 802.11b/g radio and an
802.11n
radio operate within 802.3af power limits that should give
organizations
the
breathing room they need to upgrade their edge switching
infrastructure
over
the next 3-5 years.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale W. Carder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] The strategic importance of 5GHz

On Jun 25, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Enfield, Chuck wrote:
We currently only have one UTP cable to an AP location.

The alternative is one GigE drop with either local power or
proprietary UTP based power (including possible pre-standard
802.3at).

One thing we did for the last 3 years is to pull siamese cable to each AP location, setting up the infrastructure in advance for a technology
change.

What will probably screw us as you mention is not enough PoE via
802.3af.
Having an AP with bg on 2.4 and MIMO on 5 will probably require
802.3at.
So in addition to replacing your AP's, you are now also forklifting
your
PoE switches...

Dale

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