We are running 4.2.130 since last December.  Very stable with no issues so far. 
 We have this code running on both WiSM's and stand alone 4400's and one 2106.  
We have just under 1200 ap's in production.  We are running 5.1.151.0 code on 
our testbed controller.  We are still not comfortable going to the 5 code train 
yet.

David Wallace
Associate Network Designer
Kent State University

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:46:39 -0500
From:    Lee H Badman <[email protected]>
Subject: WiSM Code- Revisited

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After a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed
to move from 4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some
input from anyone running 4.2.176.=20
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any major bugs?
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both management and service IP addresses.
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Thanks much-
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Lee
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Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:58:06 -0500
From:    "Kellogg, Brian D." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WiSM Code- Revisited

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We had serious issues with the version 5 code so we downgraded to the
four code.  About 55 days ago we upgrade to version 4.2.176 and it has
been rock solid so far.  We have one WiSM with 256 1131abg APs and about
15 1300 outdoor APs.

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Network Services Manager

St. Bonaventure University

716-375-4092

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WiSM Code- Revisited

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After a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed
to move from 4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some
input from anyone running 4.2.176.=20

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How big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of
any major bugs?

=20

For us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing
both management and service IP addresses.

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Thanks much-

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Lee

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Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Syracuse University

315 443-3003

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EDUCAUSE
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[mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee H =
Badman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:47 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> WiSM Code- Revisited<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed to move =
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anyone
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big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of any =
major
bugs?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing both
management and service IP addresses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:24 -0500
From:    Dennis Xu <[email protected]>
Subject: WISM Stability and Load

We have run wisms for two years with different codes(4.0, 4.1 and 4.2). We have 
both web auth wlan and WPA wlan(majority of users are on web auth wlan). We 
have found when wisms are running in a higher load(500-1000 users per 
controller), they will start to have crash issue and web auth issue(web login 
page not loading). They run very stable when the load is low.

Is this the same case for other deployments as well? I hope someone can share 
following info with me:

1. Are your wisms stable and what code do you use?
2. How many users total and how many web auth users do you have per 
controller(NOT per wism blade)

Thanks!

Dennis Xu
Network Analyst(CCS)
University of Guelph
5198244120 x 56217

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:03:56 -0800
From:    Jeffrey Sessler <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WiSM Code- Revisited

In the case of 5.x, the initial 5.0 release had issues, and does the =
latest 5.2, but the 5.1 code appears to be rock solid, and for those with =
AP1252's offers easy access to features that are problematic on the 4.2 =
train.

Jeff


>>> Lee H Badman <[email protected]> 1/20/2009 9:46 AM >>>
After a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed
to move from 4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some
input from anyone running 4.2.176.=20
=20
How big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of
any major bugs?
=20
For us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing
both management and service IP addresses.
=20
Thanks much-
=20
Lee
=20
Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
=20

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:23:38 -0600
From:    Hector J Rios <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WiSM Code- Revisited

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We've been running 4.2.130 for quite a while and has been very stable.=20

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8 WiSMs

1546 APs

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Hector Rios

Louisiana State University

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiSM Code- Revisited

=20

After a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed
to move from 4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some
input from anyone running 4.2.176.=20

=20

How big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of
any major bugs?

=20

For us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing
both management and service IP addresses.

=20

Thanks much-

=20

Lee

=20

Lee H. Badman

Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Syracuse University

315 443-3003

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Lee, <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We&#8217;ve been running 4.2.130 for quite a while and =
has been very
stable. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>8 WiSMs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>1546 APs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hector Rios<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Louisiana State University<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> The =
EDUCAUSE
Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee H =
Badman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email protected]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WIRELESS-LAN] WiSM Code- =
Revisited<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>After
a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed to move =
from
4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some input from =
anyone
running 4.2.176. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of any =
major
bugs?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For
us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing both
management and service IP addresses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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H. Badman</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wireless/Netw=
ork
Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Information
Technology and Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Syracuse
University</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>315
443-3003</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:29:17 -0500
From:    Lee H Badman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WISM Stability and Load

Yikes- that ends up being some pretty pricey unreliable hardware. I have
to wonder if the same class of hardware from other vendors is just as
quirky, but perhaps you hear less about them because of lesser market
share? Or are the WiSMs is a dubious class by themselves?

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Xu
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WISM Stability and Load

We have run wisms for two years with different codes(4.0, 4.1 and 4.2).
We have both web auth wlan and WPA wlan(majority of users are on web
auth wlan). We have found when wisms are running in a higher
load(500-1000 users per controller), they will start to have crash issue
and web auth issue(web login page not loading). They run very stable
when the load is low.

Is this the same case for other deployments as well? I hope someone can
share following info with me:

1. Are your wisms stable and what code do you use?
2. How many users total and how many web auth users do you have per
controller(NOT per wism blade)

Thanks!=20

Dennis Xu
Network Analyst(CCS)
University of Guelph
5198244120 x 56217

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Date:    Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:37:29 -0500
From:    Dennis Xu <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WiSM Code- Revisited

We upgraded to 4.2.176.0 from 4.1.185.0 and we run into a problem that 
sometimes the web login page cannot load on client browsers. It happens only 
during peak times. The WPA users seems to be fine. We may have to downgrade to 
4.1.185.0.

Dennis Xu
Network Analyst(CCS)
University of Guelph
5198244120 x 56217

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee H Badman" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:46:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiSM Code- Revisited


After a weekend full of problems on 4.2.112... We are being instructed to move 
from 4.2.112 to 4.2.176, and to avoid 5 code. Could use some input from anyone 
running 4.2.176.

How big is your environment, and are you either experiencing or aware of any 
major bugs?

For us on 4.2.112, we are having random spates of controllers losing both 
management and service IP addresses.

Thanks much-

Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
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