As wisms are doing broadcast suppression, so I don't think large subnet is an 
issue:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Mobility/emob41dg/ch2_Arch.html#wp1028269

We have been running /22 subnets on wisms for more than a year and we haven't 
seen any issues with that. As we are reaching the limit for /22 subnets, we are 
considering to change to /21 subnets this summer. 

Dennis Xu
Network Analyst
Computing and Communication Services
University of Guelph
5198244120 x 56217

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From: "Bruce T Johnson" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:25:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users




Yes I can imagine. Thanks for the heads-up. 



How hard has it been to provision via RADIUS? I am in favor of the reduced SSID 
load over the air. Are MAC addresses the only thing can you use to map 
attributes to? What about machine names? 



Thanks for your feedback, 






Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer 


Partners Healthcare | Network Engineering | 617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | 
[email protected] 




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Correct, but it generated a ton of support calls.. 





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Is that a temporary condition until DHCP completes? 






Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer 


Partners Healthcare | Network Engineering | 617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | 
[email protected] 




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The only thing about that is training your users to accept the limited or no 
connectivity state when connecting to the assigned vlan… 




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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike King 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:04 PM 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users 



You don't mention if your using 802.1x, but if you are, you can utilize "Vlan 
Override". 





http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080665ceb.shtml
 





which allows you to throw users int specific VLAN's based on RADIUS return 
attributes. All off the same SSID. 





Mike 


On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Jason Appah < [email protected] > wrote: 

You could still get away with that with FAT AP's 

That is since they are autonomous, you could assign different vlans and 
in turn different ip scopes to the same ssid as they are all unawares of 
each other. 



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users 

Not sure if Cisco has anything like this but Aruba has vlan pooling 
which 
allows multiple vlans to be assigned to the same SSID and the algorithm 
will 
assign clients to each vlan based on that. That works well if you want 
to 
continue to broadcast the same ssid over all of campus. Not sure if 
Cisco 
does anything similar. 

We have multiple profiles here (per building) all using the same ssid 
but 
depending on what AP you associate to you will get assigned that profile 
which has the vlan assignment. 

Scott Irey 
Network & Telecom Systems Engineer 
Oakland University 
Office: 248.370.2808 
Mobile: 248.505.9827 

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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:52 PM 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Deployment-High number of users 

Hi I run a medium-sized wifi network.We are cisco shop 
(autonommous access points).Recently wifi users number have reached 
limits we didn't expect.Because of that,we had to adjust our subnet 
network in order to support more users associated to the only SSID our 
wireless network use. 

I've been looking for alternative to create another ssid and associate 
it to another different subnet but I can't find any related to. 

Our wireless lan is currently reaching 1000 users or so.I'm not very 
confortable with the idea of having such number of users in wireless 
subnet. 
We have deployed around 60 cisco autonomous acess points throughout 
the campus and this subnet is firewalled and routed in our core switch 
which is a hope away to accessing Internet.It's very simple design. 
What would be a recommended deployment in this case with a growing 
number of users? 
Would deploying lwap bring any advantage to this design? We want to 
keep a single ssid and mobility for wireless users. 
Would mesh network bring any benefit? 

Thank you 

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