We have a similar situation with Impulse. The good news is that it does a great 
job identifying mobile devices and games as well for that matter, and excluding 
them from needing the agent. We do have problems with install pages 
occasionally getting displayed on all of our devices after the agent is already 
installed, but the OS detection works well. Since it does rely upon the 
Agent-ID, there is no way around the need to display a web page. We get this 
complaint a lot. The best solution would be to develop an agent for the mobile 
device. There is nothing stopping the NAC vendors from developing an "App" for 
iPhones/Touches for example. This seems like the obvious one as it appears to 
be by far the most popular mobile device, especially among students. I know it 
is the only device I hear complaints about related to this issue.

It is indeed possible to spoof the Agent-ID. We've tried it. However, because 
the device is using 802.1x, we still know who is associated with the device for 
security purposes. All the spoofing would do is keep them from having their 
security posture checked for Windows Update, updated AV software and FW. Our 
view is that if someone wants to go through the trouble to avoid that they are 
likely smart enough to know the consequences, and will likely be smart enough 
to address the security issues. If not, they deserve to live with the 
consequences. Ironically, we have plenty of security problems (ie malware hosed 
machines) with machines that are complying with all of our requirements as 
well. As far as I know, we have yet to have to rebuild someone's machine that 
was tagged by our IDS as having a security issue, that also showed up in our 
system as having a mobile OS or game OS. Our preference is to avoid having to 
maintain MAC filters which can also be easily spoofed.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Xu
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mobile devices and NAC

Just want to check how other people deal with mobile device with NAC? We use 
Cisco NAC and configured "not require agent" for mobile devices, but the 
problem is they have to open the browser first (even they have already been 
authenticated using 802.1X) to become online users in NAC before they can use 
any other applications(email clients, calendar, etc). Cisco NAC detects the 
user O/S after user opens the browser. So no browser open, no other network 
connectives. This has caused many frustrations. How do you make the mobile 
devices work with NAC without these pains? If you use MAC filter to bypass NAC, 
how do you manage and maintain the filter list? Any suggestions are appreciated!

Dennis Xu
Network Analyst
Computing and Communication Services
University of Guelph
5198244120 x 56217

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