I would LOVE to see wireless printers support 802.1x/WPA-Enterprise 
authentication, but I'm not holding my breath.  The same is true for game 
consoles (Xboxes, Wiis, etc), but that's even more unlikely - especially since 
the Wii has trouble connecting to an 802.11g network without dot11b data rates 
enabled.

I wish vendors would get it "right" with their wireless drivers and 
authentication support - or win the lottery.  I probably have a better chance 
of winning the lottery, though.

 >>-> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
      Emory University
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-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Curtis
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:54 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Student Wireless Printers in Dorms

On Aug 26, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:

> Hi Stan-
> 
> Your thoughts are a carbon copy of my own, and your approach mirrors what we 
> are doing now. At the same time, a lot of parents and those who want to keep 
> them happy would love to see a silver bullet emerge that somehow makes it all 
> work. I'm picturing some not yet existent protocol/framework developed just 
> for higher ed by the printer folks and WLAN makers.

  Actually I think the right combination of existing protocols would work.  If 
the printers supported 802.1x authentication for WPA2 Enterprise, and IPsec 
over IPV6.

  IPv6 support would solve the problem of having enough IP numbers and IPsec 
support would be a way to only allow certain computers to print to the printer.

  With some new federal requirements we may actually see more printers support 
IPsec.  But maybe not the $40 printers for a while.

https://sites.google.com/site/ipv6implementors/2010/agenda/LT_03_Narten_IPv6-USGv6-Google.pdf?attredirects=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U45hV16LA1A#t=1h34m4s

> And I'd like a pony and some ice cream and to win the lottery:)

  Winning the lottery would be fine for me, then I could buy my own pony and 
ice cream. :-)

> -Lee 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Brooks, Stan 
> [stan.bro...@emory.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:50 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Student Wireless Printers in Dorms
> 
> Lee,
> 
> The answer is buy a Bluetooth printer or get a USB cable.
> 
> At Emory, we do not support or allow wireless printers on our network.  There 
> is no easy way to manage these devices.  They don't support 802.1x 
> authentication, so they would have to go on either an open or WPA-PSK 
> wireless network.  Even if they got connected, there is no guarantee that the 
> student would find their printer since we don't do static IPs on our wireless 
> network and we use Aruba's VLAN pooling to provide manageable subnets on our 
> controllers, so a wireless user and their wireless printer may end up on 
> separate subnets.
> 
> An additional disincentive for wireless printing is that others could see and 
> print pages to the student's printer.  While this may make an interesting 
> practical joke, I think the student who ends up with 100's of pages of 
> garbage spewing from their printer will not be amused at the waste of paper 
> and ink.
> 
> If we see wireless printers, we ask the students to turn off the wireless 
> interface and strongly recommend that they invest in a USB cable for printing.
> 
>>> -> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
>      Emory University
>      University Technology Services
>      404.727.0226
> AIM/Y!/Twitter: WLANstan
>           MSN: wlans...@hotmail.com<mailto:wlans...@hotmail.com>
>    GoogleTalk: wlans...@gmail.com<mailto:wlans...@gmail.com>
> 
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:08 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Student Wireless Printers in Dorms
> 
> Is not the first time this topic has been put out there, but the semester 
> opening once again pushes it out front and center.
> 
> Has anyone found a supportable, comfortable way to squeeze hundreds of $40 
> wireless printers into your carefully designed and tuned 802.1x-auth/secure 
> residential WLANs? They tend not to run enterprise security profiles, and 
> even if they did, there are still a lot of questions about how you'd use them 
> as authorized clients.
> 
> Thanks-
> 
> Lee Badman
> 
> 
> 
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