Luis,

Cellular networks (usually licensed spectrum)  are not under the same 
regulations as Wi-Fi (usually unlicensed spectrum).
In the US, for instance, one cannot interfere with the licensed spectrum 
(jammers etc...), and when it comes to the unlicensed spectrum (e.g. Wi-Fi),
you have to comply with Part15 of the FCC.

Can you interfere with cellular networks in Nicaragua or Costa Rica? (I would 
double check...otherwise students will remind you!)

The point I want to make with Cellular access (Macro towers, DAS, etc..), is 
that students that cannot join the Wi-Fi network
in classrooms will find other wireless technologies to get access (Smartphones, 
tethering laptops, air-cards.... or just a book, but not the textbook!).

So, students that can afford cellular-data access can still be distracted. This 
could be an interesting research.
The hypothesis would be "Is it about who you know or what you know" or TextBook 
VS FaceBook ;-)

Philippe
Univ. of TN

On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Luis Fernando Valverde wrote:

Yes, we do.    The idea is to block any source of wireless connection to the 
WiFi network.
lf

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And do you plan to block air-cards on cellular as well with that jammer?

Philippe
Univ. of TN

On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Luis Fernando Valverde wrote:


I understand your points of view and I agree with some of your comments. 
However, we use our classrooms for multiple academic activities (MBA programs, 
seminar and in-company events), and we need to find a simple device to block 
the signal in a 10-20 meters radius / classroom. So, the adjacent classrooms 
can work with the signal of their own access points (some professors require 
Internet signal to teach their sessions – internet dynamics, simulations over 
the internet, cloud computing services, etc.).

I have heard that this is implemented in some universities in the USA, Europe 
and Asia (for instance, I was told that in the Indian School of Bussiness’ 
classrooms there are switches to enable/disable wireless signals.   I emailed 
them, but I haven’t received answer yet).

Luis Fernando

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They also use cloud document management such as Google docs and would need the 
connectivity if storing notes out there.  Instructors need to manage the 
classroom, not take tools away, IMO.

Greg
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Methven, Peter J 
<p.j.meth...@hw.ac.uk<mailto:p.j.meth...@hw.ac.uk>> wrote:
If you have some lead laying around, you could line the rooms and turn the APs 
off during lecture times... But as other respondents have said it's not really 
a technology issue, you design your WIFI for full coverage for a reason.
Students use laptops to take notes like we all used to use notepads. Similar to 
using notepads to draw on when bored in a lecture or write notes, our current 
students use their laptops to use facebook etc. The issue lecturers should look 
at is why their students are so bored in their lectures that they are losing 
interest!

Many Thanks
Peter

Peter Methven
Network Specialist
Heriot-Watt University
Edinburgh
Scotland
EH14 4AS
(+44)0 131 4513516

This email has been sent from a mobile phone, please excuse any creative 
spelling or grammar that may have occured!

On 18 Nov 2010, at 20:35, "Russ Leathe" 
<russ.lea...@gordon.edu<mailto:russ.lea...@gordon.edu>> wrote:
We can push out different SSID’s with ACL’s that limit what an authenticated 
user can access.

However, our AP heatmap shows leakage from AP’s above and below the floors 
where the classroom are.

So, in a nutshell, it wasn’t worth it (blocking that is).  Especially true once 
you incorporate emergency notification via 802.11x.

I would agree with other colleagues comments, it’s an 
academic/classroom/Professor issue.

Northeastern, I believe, did not roll out 802.11x in the classrooms, because 
the Professors did not want it.
The idea behind this decision was “you don’t need wifi to take notes”.

I hope this is helpful,

Russ



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Hello,

Has anybody used jammer WiFi blockers to block to block wireless network access 
in classrooms in order to help students to concentrate on course instruction?   
 I would like to know which blockers are being used with success to do this?   
Can somebody tell me which is the best and cheaper solution (something so easy 
as turn a switch on/off)?

Thanks,
Luis Fernando

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