Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] selectively disabling wireless in classrooms

[Harry Rauch]

We've also been asked in a specific auditorium to cut off wireless. Professors have been told that it won't work; we've told them that cutting cell phone communications with a jammer is "illegal". The students are bringing in the 4G MiFi devices or are activating ad-hoc communications with their laptops. They will always find a way around restrictions. The instructors from last year have given up on the concept and are urging their fellow instructors to "cool it". Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St. Petersburg, FL 33711 On 9/23/11 9:01 AM, Tomo wrote: We’ve had it asked several times here (including for cellular).   Each time we point out that it’s an academic/classroom management issue, and that there’s no simple technology solution available at the moment to solve it. On each occasion we’ve managed to convince management that we can’t do it, and asked for evidence from academics that say “others are doing this” and been deafened by the response.   _________________________________ Tomo | Senior Infrastructure Engineer - Networks, Telecoms & Security. Direct line +44 (0)20 7000 7777 | Email t...@london.edu www.london.edu Connect with us:  Follow us on Twitter   Become a fan on Facebook     From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Barber, Matt Sent: 23 September 2011 13:38 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] selectively disabling wireless in classrooms   Hi Jim,   I also get this question/request a couple times a year. I flat-out refuse to do it. There are so many issues (coverage of other spaces, the students have cellular connectivity too, managing the changes, etc.) but those play a very small part in us not doing it.   We simply don’t do it on principle. I don’t feel that it is our responsibility to help manage the attention of the students in the classroom. Luckily I have support from the appropriate people on campus for that stance.   I will say that very few faculty members have asked overall. Most of our faculty are happy to include online video, Blackboard, and now iPads in their instruction.   Good luck!   Matt Barber Network and Systems Manager Morrisville State College 315-684-6053   From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gogan, James P Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:22 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] selectively disabling wireless in classrooms   Well, it's that time of year again ….   the time when we get calls from a handful of faculty who want the ability to disable the wireless access point that covers their classroom during specific class periods (they also want cellular coverage disabled during those times -- yeah, right ……).    When I point out that the AP that covers their classroom may also provide coverage for the one next door, or that with a controller-based architecture, shutting off one access point would likely just increase the signal coverage area of adjacent APs, the response I usually get back is "well, I KNOW that other universities are doing it, so …. FIX IT".   So, let me ask my biennial question: what ARE other universities doing in this regard?    I was specifically given U of Michigan as an example.    Anyone know what they're doing?     Any successful implementation details from anyone dealing with this issue are welcome.    And yes, I am biting my tongue to not say "teach more engagingly".   Thanks in advance!   -- Jim Gogan / Univ of North Carolina ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System on behalf of the London Business School community. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System on behalf of the London Business School community. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.