Hi all,

I see Frank came across the article from our student newspaper.  Bravo as it 
was "published" late late night.  Must be a Google-Alert or something 
equivalent.  :-)

(btw that is how I saw it about 5am today also)

The student (freshman) reporter did a decent job with the article but with any 
situation like this they missed what I consider to be important details that 
this group would appreciate.  I worked had to help explain things in layman's 
terms.  Something we all strive to do.  We had a very-brief but noticeable DNS 
hiccup on Monday on our acad/admin LAN.  As you know know DNS is like air, all 
our network services need it to live.  I won't bother you with the DNS problem 
that is now resolved.  That triggered them to ask about other (but totally 
unrelated) network issues.

The meat of the issue is our ResNet wifi service.  We added Wifi in the dorms 
last academic year.  As the article states we have outsources ResNet to our 
regional broadband provider (TW Cable) 6+ years ago.  I'm a big fan of this as 
the Internet bandwidth, 24x7 tech support, and infrastructure support is as 
good if not better than we could do locally.  I also think this relates to IT 
"letting go" of things where we don't provide strategic value.  Residential 
networking on campus, is similar to that off-campus (if you have off-campus 
student populations).  The issue of outsourcing may be somewhat of an aside for 
this list.

Anyway, after testing their residential wifi solution (~ 2 years ago) we 
decided to go with a hardware solution they have used in hotels, etc..  It's an 
external antenna solution from Bel-Air.  I know TWC (and frankly us also) were 
not prepared for the extent of the demand.  TWC was thinking that if we have ~ 
2k students in the dorms they would need to support up to 1500 users/devices 
simultaneously.  Before we went live we educated them to the reality of today's 
18-22 year old regarding # of wifi devices and the "always on" nature of the 
users and/or their devices.  We got them to use 802.1x rather than browser 
redirect authentication to allow for usable mobile access.

TWC & Bel-Air are making progress technically.  I think our biggest current 
challenge is a cat and mouse situation with personal AP's.  I'd say we have 
400+ personal AP's in the dorms.  This is causing interference and making thing 
worse.  Is banning personal AP's the norm for most of you?  We are probably 
going down that path, but only after TWC adds a handful more AP's to increase 
the chance of thing working as desired when we do that.

BTW any of you see this?  Does it sound familiar.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/business/ipads-change-economics-and-speed-of-hotel-wi-fi-on-the-road.html?_r=1

Best,
….Justin
________________________
 Justin Sipher
 Chief Technology Officer
 Skidmore College
 Saratoga Springs, NY
 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 518-580-5909


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From: "Parker, Ron" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: November 10, 2011 1:07:39 PM EST
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] College deals with wireless issues
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

It looks like the reply-to on the list isn't working right or something. I 
posted a witty rejoinder to this message and it went only to the original 
poster rather than the list. Frank has probably implemented an e-mail sender 
filter as a result. Perhaps our gracious list admin could check and see if I'm 
mistaken?

I couldn't tell how much of what happened at Skidmore was a Time Warner problem 
versus other issues. There seem to be a lot of things all going on at the same 
time. I've heard my colleagues at other colleges talk about challenges with 
outsourcing residence hall networking. One of them had what sounds like a 
similar experience with a virus outbreak at the beginning of this semester. 
Unfortunately, it was the college IT staff running around fixing things and 
taking the blame rather than the vendor.

Since this is the wireless list, I'll focus on the wireless issues. If you ask 
me, this is the important quote: "'The original design of the wireless system 
in the residence halls was to provide supplemental coverage to the wired 
network in your rooms," said Sipher'" So a student is sitting there with an 
unused 100 meg or gig wired port that would probably work fine but the Skidmore 
folks are being sent running around with their hair on fire because the 
outsourced wireless is overloaded. I just think user expectations of wireless 
are unrealistic and we in IT are probably not doing a good job of correcting 
that. I routinely tell people here to use a wired connection if what they are 
doing is important. This is in spite of the fact that we have a honking new 
wireless system with the latest and greatest magic available.

I am definitely in the club of "been there done that" along with the folks at 
Skidmore. Sounds like they are trying to do a good job of communicating about 
the situation and I've always found that goes a long way towards making 
everyone happier. There is a lot of good information in that article.

--
Ron Parker, Director of Information Technology, Brazosport College
Voice: (979) 230-3480             FAX: (979) 230-3111
http://www.brazosport.edu

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-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
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 On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:02 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] College deals with wireless issues

http://www.skidmorenews.com/news/information-technology-department-addresses
-wireless-issues-1.2691856#.TrvkfkMUqdA

This article has some details but doesn't make it very clear if all the
problems have been DNS or otherwise, but I thought there might be some
people on this list who find this news article interesting.

I don't think Skidmore is on this list, as I don't meant to embarrass
anyone.  We've all "been there" in one circumstance or another.

Frank

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