Hi Hector,

Stadium wireless is common in the pros- Cowboys stadium, AT&T Park, 
Diamondback's Stadium, Washington Nationals, Dolphin Stadium and on and on.

The basic approaches seem to fall into

- Let AT&T do it. We're (Networking and Athletics both) not liking this for a 
number of reasons that I don't want to really raise on the list. This is just 
Cisco microcell where AT&T installs and manages from their own NOC.

- Your own microcell architecture. Cisco seems to have most publicized skin in 
the game with their 3500p and special "stadium antenna".  Usually put in by an 
integrator because of the scale, but the stadium owns and runs it. You usually 
see something like "# of seats divided by 250 (or 300 or 200 or some nice round 
number depending on who designs it)" to get the AP count in use.

- BelAir (Dolphins Stadium, I think) or Ruckus (lots of overseas stuff) or 
Xirrus with their BAAP (big-ass APs, multi-radio array units) deployments that 
replace what might be hundreds of microcells with dozens of their big boys.

Yes, their are challenges, but at the same time precedence shows it's very 
doable if you know what you are doing and understand the RF and functional 
challenges of the environment.

We have a very nice stadium, a basketball team that's on fire (crossing fingers 
that football will perk up), some wireless in place that was grown 
opportunistically, and lots of users appreciating current connectivity but 
thirsty for more. There is a DAS story for the mobile carriers as well, but not 
really part of the WiFi conversation. We are also providing decent wireless 
where practical for tailgaters as part of our natural march to campus-wide 
wireless, and though the pros are a whole different business model, our stadium 
is a true campus asset.

Hence, wondering if and what others in our shoes have done. I see a couple of 
folks have gone down the AT&T-Does-Stadium-WiFi route, but would very much like 
to hear if anyone else is fully wireless in their stadiums outside of the AT&T 
model.

Thanks-

Lee






Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer, ITS
Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[[email protected]] on behalf of Hector J Rios [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High-Density Stadium Wireless

Just curious Lee, what's prompting this? I'm assuming you are looking at 100% 
coverage? Just the thought of providing wireless to an entire stadium gives me 
the chills. The thing I have to mention is that in your plan you better put in 
place a very strict RF policy and plan for a very capable frequency coordinator.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] High-Density Stadium Wireless

I know there are plenty of professional sports examples, but I’m curious about 
peer schools who have large stadiums (we seat 33K-50K in our ours) who have 
done their own high-quality, high-density WLAN build outs, and what solution(s) 
you used.

I’d like to talk in detail off list, and possibly arrange for a site visit if 
the venue is close enough in scope to our own to be of value.

(This message is absolutely NOT an invitation for AT&T or any other vendor to 
call, email, show up on my door, or to try to be my Facebook or Linked-In fake 
friend. No offense. )


Thanks-

Lee


Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
Syracuse University
315 443-3003


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