Marcelo,
  The Aruba feature that allow fingerprint on the devices, do you have to pay 
extra for it to be functional ?

  I hope our Cisco BU is listening ;-)))

Regards, 

Loc Pham, CCIE
office 415-353-4492
IT Enterprise Security & Services
UCSF Medical Center

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcelo Lew
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] School blocks Wi-Fi access to smartphones to 
address IP usage issues

Smartphones were killing us this quarter.  While we only have 3500-3800 
concurrent daily users, we have about 6500 devices connected.  Most of these 
extra 3000 devices were smartphones that come online for less than a minute, 
and then go idle again.  With our 30m DHCP renew times, we were exhausting our 
5500 public IP pool for our main SSID.  Instead of moving to private space 
(which most likely we will in the near future), we added 6 more class c 
subnets.  We are now NOT running out of IPs, at least for a short while.  We 
also thought of making the DHCP lease times very short (like 5 minutes), but 
our DHCP admin is uncertain what issues might arise from this.  Another option 
we are thinking about, the new Aruba code allows fingerprinting devices before 
they are placed on a subnet, so we could put all smartphones in specific 
subnets with short lease times, and leave the rest of the devices (pads, 
netbook, notebooks, etc) on regular subnets with average DHCP lease times.

Marcelo Lew
Wireless Enterprise Administrator
University Technology Services
University of Denver
Desk: (303) 871-6523
Cell: (303) 669-4217
Fax:  (303) 871-5900
Email: [email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonn Martell
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] School blocks Wi-Fi access to smartphones to 
address IP usage issues

I agree, the school newspaper only shows it from a user's perspective.
 "The smartphones are shutting down the network" while it's more "the network 
has run out of public address space and the use of private address space on 
this network is _______ "

We all know the major flaw in using private address space is logging and 
tracking but there are solutions to this.  Shutting down access (by MAC block 
ID?) would not be one of mine.

Jonn Martell, speaking as a network instructor and Director but not on behalf 
of the Universities I work at....

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Frank Bulk <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.vsuspectator.com/2012/02/02/outage-linked-to-usage/
>
> Looks like VSU had to make some hard choices and is blocking Wi-Fi 
> access by smartphones.  Not sure why they couldn't add another RFC 
> 1918 block, but I'm sure there's more going on than the school paper shared.
>
> Frank
>
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