Yes, we deal with robotic devices not having support for 802.1x as well, but 
also the lower end video and ereaders, like Nooks and Roku (there's a $50 
version that is wireless only and the lower Kindle version - not fire).  We use 
EAP-TTLS and the Nooks took out the certificate support (since our bookstore is 
B&N, it doesn't help matters).

We haven't heard of too many complaints about the lack of 802.1x support for 
printers (I think students have decided it's not worth supplying their entire 
floor color ink cartridges these days).  And Wii hasn't been an issue (we 
haven't supported data rates lower than 11 for years - we tell them to plug in 
their Wii and most gaming consoles).  

At this point, we need to figure out better long term strategies for these 
types of devices, which is why I was trying to see if it could be added to the 
discussion.  With the advent of refreshing wireless hardware for new standards 
like 802.11ac and the next generation, I want to get us to a point where we 
able to have good options moving forward.

Given all that, I wanted to assess where others were with location based 
services.  We have everything setup here to maintain the same IP address as you 
roam across campus.  We are looking to see if we can start to tie that into 
building resources like location based printing.  Also, we had IPv6 enabled for 
all of our wireless networks but the L3 mobility piece wasn't ready yet, so we 
are waiting for some other fixes.  I would love to hear a measurement of where 
others are with IPv6 support.  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Sweetser
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] See you at Educause...(Denver, CO)

One other related category that we've run into a few times is research 
equipment, most notably robotics.  I just recently dealt with a brand new, 
state of the art $200k robot that only supports PSK - no 802.1x support at all.

While they're not that dissimilar from the consumer grade devices (in the above 
robot, I suspect it's wireless was in fact provided by a consumer grade belkin 
adapter), the "critical academic research" classification and the amount of 
research money behind them effectively means they have to get treated very 
differently than "my Wii can't stream netflix" complaints.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu    |  For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |           - HL Mencken

On 11/5/2012 8:46 PM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote:
> Colleen,
>
>> - What are others doing to support home networking products in the 
>> enterprise (besides just Apple products)?  Ways to do this without having to 
>> completely adapt a vendor solution & be locked into an end to end solution.
>>
>
> Could you (or anyone on the list) give a few examples of home 
> networking products that you have in mind and the challenges that come with 
> them I can think of:
> Printers (interference, security, being on same layer 2) the slew of 
> Apple products (and equivalent products) (the challenges of mDNS) Game 
> consoles (the ones that cannot do 802.1x) What else?
>
>
>> - Any good success stories with IPv6 on wireless? Or location based authZ on 
>> wireless?
>
> Any specific use case for Location based AuthZ on Wi-Fi?
>
>>
>> I know I'll have access to login after the conference is over to review the 
>> session, so I hope these will be discussed!
>>
>
> The session is not recorded but we will try to provide a good summary 
> of the discussion back on the list
>
> Thanks,
>
> Philippe
>
>> Colleen Szymanik
>> University of Pennsylvania
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:44 PM, "Entwistle, Bruce" 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am unable to attend but would be interested in comments related to the 
>>> topics mentioned.
>>>
>>> Bruce Entwistle
>>> Network Manager
>>> University of Redlands
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hanset, 
>>> Philippe C
>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:25 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] See you at Educause...(Denver, CO)
>>>
>>> The Wireless-LAN session is on Wednesday Nov 7, from 10:30 till 11:20 
>>> Mountain Time, room 402.
>>>
>>> Topics that come to mind:
>>>
>>> -802.11AC Why wait? Why jump?
>>> -How to empower users with Bonjour needs?
>>> (or consequences for not doing it)
>>> -Is Wireless management slowly moving to the switch? What does it mean for 
>>> us?
>>> (Will it all work with openflow seamlessly?)
>>>
>>> Any other topic you want us to discuss?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Have a good Weekend,
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> Univ. of TN
>>>
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