from the top of my head...

###What's bad for the user:

-Captive portal: no encryption over the air, pesky re-authentication and 
timeouts, no authentication of the infrastructure
 (yes, when you accept that SSL Cert from RADIUS you actually authenticate the 
infrastructure)

-802.1X: finicky supplicants, and, without a good installer, long config 
instructions. Strongly authenticated (can't escape the system ;-)

###What's bad for the network engineer (and user stuff as well...):

-Captive portal: CPU capacity of portal (802.11ac!!!), clients taking IP 
addresses and air time even if not authenticated, authentication can be defeated

-802.1X: bugs from various vendors. A pain the troubleshoot when not working. 
Certificate Expiration and help desk calls resulting from it

add yours!

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us


On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jeff Kell <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/19/2013 4:05 PM, Peter P Morrissey wrote:
>> Can anyone name an application that does not have strong encryption?
>> 
>> I'm not arguing against 802.1x, because it works very well for us as users 
>> don't have to authenticate constantly on a portal, and we seem to do a very 
>> good job getting them on initially, but I am having a hard time 
>> understanding the encryption benefits lately.
> 
> Does FireSheep or Ettercap ring any bells?
> 
> Jeff
> 
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