We only used spectrum-load balance mode in very high dense classrooms, but we 
have this feature turned off now. We now also have band steering turned off 
based on recommendation we got from an Aruba ACE engineer. The band steering 
feature was causing problems mainly amongst the Apple smartphones.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wright, Don
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 11:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

You mentioned "load balance mode", were you running band-steering and 
spectrum-load-balancing at the same time on the same APs?  Check with Aruba, 
but I think they will tell you this is not a recommended practice and better to 
stick with band-steering only assuming your coverage will support both radios.
Also, I read somewhere that recent MacOS updates already try to "band-steer" 
the client to the 5GHZ radio?  If that's true, your controller setting really 
isn't having an affect anyway, and the client are getting themselves into 
trouble..
- Don

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Edward Ip 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
When we did a packet capture, we saw that the Mac clients would try to 
associate on the 2.4GHz band and then move over to the 5GHz band and then back. 
We saw this happen quite a bit. This made the re association longer when our 
clients roamed.

Sometimes in certain areas of our college if 2 APs are within range with about 
the same SNR, the Mac client would get shifted between the two APs due to load 
balance mode turned on. Due to the cert issue and the re association process it 
would drive our Mac clients (err...students) crazy around crunch time.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com<http://algonquincollege.com>

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Norman Elton
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:57 PM

To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

Interesting. What were the band-steering symptoms? Any way to pin the problem 
down to band-steering, or was it trial and error?

Norman

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Edward Ip 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree with Jeff, we recently disabled band steering on our Aruba controllers 
and it has helped a bit.
Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com<http://algonquincollege.com>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM

To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OS X 802.1x auth issue

We've seen the cert issue, and OS 10.8 and 10.9 don't seem to like 
band/load-steering. The cert issue coupled with band-steering and/or 
load-steering make the Mac's very unhappy.

Jeff

>>> On Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM, in message 
>>> <CAPCnwUdAuZqKuFwOycKrGmXgiKCrb_Wy82=o5xc3be+o7an...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CAPCnwUdAuZqKuFwOycKrGmXgiKCrb_Wy82=o5xc3be+o7an...@mail.gmail.com>>,
>>>  Norman Elton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And a follow up. Has anyone actually confirmed that this bug is
actually causing client complaints? We do seem to riding a wave of
complaints from MacBook owners. We are only just now starting to
change cert trust settings. Hopefully we'll know more next week as
students have a chance to test things out over the weekend.

Norman Elton
College of William & Mary

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Norman Elton 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> It also appears specific to certs based on 2048 bit keys.   Also there is no
>> cert validation delay upon initial connect... only when attempting to
>> reauth... ie after a death or a roam event.
>
> Can anyone confirm the bug only affects certs with 2048 bit keys? I
> don't see that listed anywhere in Apple's release. It's an interesting
> twist.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Norman Elton
> College of William & Mary

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