Hi Philippe,

Another reason for 2 drops is resiliency. I envision connecting the AP's 2 ports to a 2-switch stack. We rarely see the need for redundant power supplies in an edge switch, but have seen failure on a switch ASIC cause one or more ports to go dead. With 2 connections, one switch having issues won't take out the AP. I think LAG'g both ports across the stack & supporting LACP will become a future requirement.

        -John


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On 02/07/2014 10:21 AM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote:
Is the main justification for two drops due to power/bandwidth/the-two?

With many services and most killer apps going to the cloud, I would
suspect that the bandwidth to the WAN is so limiting,
that this excess of capacity on Wireless is a complete overkill (a
vendor driven non-sense).

Yes, those 802.11ac Phase2 APs can generate a lot more than 1 Gbps, but
that's is shared bandwidth (half-duplex),
and your uplink is 1 Gbps full-duplex (2 Gbps in Cisco math as we said
in the old days).

So, you really plan to also uplink your switches with 40 Gbps, and then
a core at many times 100 Gbps, all connected
to your ISP at a few Gbps... something doesn't add up here.

Am I alone making bad accounting here?

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us <http://www.eduroam.us>



On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:58 AM, James Robert Kennon <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
  wrote:

We just made a call on a new building and decided not to incur cost of
2 cables per drop at this time. Hope we don't regret it later.



From: Lee H Badman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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We'll be running two, until some sanity emerges.



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All,

I wanted to see how many people were planning on running 2 drops to
802.11ac phase 2 access points?

Currently we are just doing a one for one swap when replacing an older
a/b/g AP’s with 802.11ac phase 1 AP’s

When you have new construction, do you plan on running 2 drops so when
phase 2 come into play you will be all set for it?



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