Seems to be the case that the source port is part of the complaint, and if it's 
not, your right, no track back. I guessing that the complaining entities are 
dealing with lots of NATed networks. 

Bruce Boardman Networking Syracuse University 315 412-4156

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NAT tracking question

Jason, Bruce,

   It sounds intriguing but I do have one question.  This method assumes that 
you will get the source ip and source port in the request/complaint.  How often 
is that the case as I would assume most request are in the flavor of "this ip 
was attacking this ip at this 
time"?   Do you ever have the need to track down a user without knowing 
the source port, as you  would have no way to do it (unless you do netflow 
also).



On 01/15/2015 12:29 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> We do the same on a pair of the A10 AX3530's, and it's been working 
> very well for us. We are currently NAT'ing a /12 of internal addresses 
> into a /16 of external addresses (~4000 ports per internal IP). When 
> doing lookups, we just pre-generate a lookup table of the outside IP & 
> port to the inside IP, although you could also just calculate it on 
> the fly.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On 01/14/2015 02:06 PM, Bruce Boardman wrote:
>> We do this with A10 Networks CGN boxes. They have a feature they call 
>> fixed NAT, which predetermines some number of inside addresses to  a 
>> pool of outside addresses. These mapping are static, so when you get 
>> a particular inside address you'll always get a particular outside 
>> address within a defined static port range. If you know one you'll 
>> know the other.  We log the traffic, so we can pretty much look back 
>> and time correlate use via DHCP and 802.1x.
>>
>> Bruce Boardman Networking Syracuse University 315 412-4156

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