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DESCRIPTION;LANGUAGE=en-US:\n\n____________________________________________
 _\nFrom: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:W
 [email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk\nSent: Thursday
 \, March 19\, 2015 4:48 PM\nTo: [email protected]<mailto:
 [email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] netflix q
 uestion\n\n\nWe use Qwilt\, too – happy with it.   Our Netflix cache rat
 e is 59.9%.  It’s just amazing how much Netflix content is commonly view
 ed.\n\nAnd we move a lot more traffic than the University of Alaska. =)\n\
 nFrank\n\nFrom: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [m
 ailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Britton Anderson\nS
 ent: Thursday\, March 19\, 2015 2:50 PM\nTo: [email protected]
 E.EDU<mailto:[email protected]>\nSubject: Re: [WIRELESS-L
 AN] netflix question\n\nThis has come up a number of times on the NETMAN l
 ist too. I threw a question out a number of months ago about caching\, and
  we of course reached out to Netflix in regards to acquiring an OpenConnec
 t appliance. Even reached out to our ISP some time ago who we had noted we
 re killing us with Netflix traffic from their OpenConnect appliance for so
 me help\, like a non-transit peer. We got nowhere with either.\n\nWe were 
 kind of stuck and we sought our own caching solution. We went with Qwilt. 
 So far I think we are one of 3 Universities in the country that have it ru
 nning. There's an upcoming webinar if you want to learn more about it and 
 feel free to reach out to me off list\, but as far as the nuts and bolts g
 o--it just works.\n\nWe offload about 60% of Netflix traffic locally. Appl
 e and Windows updates all are non-issues. The biggest thing is perceived s
 peed. It's all transparent\, so clients don't care where its coming from. 
 They just watch their iOS device update to 8.2 in 3 minutes and say "WOW".
  I was in our student union building over lunch last week\, and heard two 
 separate conversations about how people have thought that the network has 
 gotten much faster because of how fast their iPhones have updated. Even ap
 ps on my own phone update in a flash. But you can clearly see how far and 
 wide Netflix is as the top consumer of streaming video for us.\n\nI got an
  Apple TV to test with in our group and I hooked it up to my Netflix accou
 nt and noted how absolutely smooth the playback experience was. HD is just
  ON all the time\, no buffering. Fast forwarding\, rewinding\, to an insta
 nt play. Like you were watching local content...\n\nThe raw reports are at
 tached. The numbers are a bit lower for the first one since we are now at 
 the tail end of Spring Break\, but I pulled the second one from the peak t
 ime of of the last week that shows the difference of quality of experience
  from content delivered locally versus from the internet.\n\n\n\nLong stor
 y short\, we found that we had to help ourselves. I can guarantee we pay o
 ne of the highest rates--if not THE highest rate--for peering bandwidth in
  the nation up here. A server like this has turned out to be worth its wei
 ght in gold as we head into tough budget times. It will have paid for itse
 lf before the year is over.\n\n\n\nBritton Anderson<mailto:blanderson3@ala
 ska.edu> |        Senior Network Communications Specialist |      Universi
 ty of Alaska<http://www.alaska.edu/oit> |       907.450.8250\n\n\nOn Thu\,
  Mar 19\, 2015 at 11:02 AM\, Lunceford\, Daniel <[email protected]<
 mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:\n\nTechnically the user would als
 o have to subscribe to the higher rate\nplan (when last I checked):\n\n  S
 D:  $7.99/mo\n  HD:  $8.99/mo\n UHD: $11.99/mo\n\nSo technically\, the use
 r would have to also be a subscriber to the\nHD/UHD services which might l
 imit your growth a bit.\n\n-drl\n\n\n--\nDan Lunceford\nManager of Network
 ing Services\nNew Mexico Tech\[email protected]<mailto:dlunceford@
 admin.nmt.edu>\, 575-835-5961<tel:575-835-5961>\n\n\n-----Original Message
 -----\nFrom: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv\n[mai
 lto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
 SE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Steve Bohrer\nSent: Thursday\, March 19\, 2015 11:38
  AM\nTo: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
 DUCAUSE.EDU>\nSubject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] netflix question\n\nAn interesti
 ng factor in Netflix (and presumably other streaming video)\nis that they 
 will scale their display resolution based on available\nbandwidth. This ca
 n make bandwidth planning projections murky. For\nexample\, from the "Your
  Account > My Profile > Playback settings" menu\nitem for my Netflix accou
 nt\, there are the following options:\n\n"* Auto\n* Low (basic video quali
 ty\, up to 0.3 GB per hour) * Medium (standard\nvideo quality\, up to 0.7 
 GB per hour) * High (best video quality\, up to\n3 GB per hour for HD\, 7 
 GB per hour for Ultra HD)"\n\nAuto is the default\, and the range from 0.3
  GB per hour to 7 GB per hour\nis a factor of about 23.\n\nSO\, if most of
  my users are currently getting "Medium" quality at peak\ndemand times\, I
  could double or quadruple my available bandwidth\, and\,\neven if user de
 mand were completely unchanged\, all the existing Netflix\nflows could exp
 and to soak up all of the bandwidth increase.\n\nAs a rule of thumb for pl
 anning\, we been assuming "bandwidth demand will\ndouble about every year 
 and a half to two years." In fact\, however\,\nNetflix demand can scale up
  by an order of magnitude with absolutely no\nchange in user behavior.\n\n
 (Presently\, we are small and constrained enough that we run an Allot\nNet
 Enforcer "packet shaper" at our edge\, and streaming video gets a\nlower p
 riority than general HTML traffic. Even so\, during evening prime\nuse per
 iods\, Netflix and other streaming video are generally 50% or more\nof our
  total inbound traffic.)\n\nSteve Bohrer\nNetwork Admin\, ITS\nBard Colleg
 e at Simon's Rock\n413-528-7645<tel:413-528-7645>\n\n**********\nParticipa
 tion and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent\nGroup dis
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