We’ve done this through word of mouth before. We’ve told students that we can’t improve their wifi speed because the people in a room nearby have a PS4 broadcasting an ad-hoc network (as an example). We also inform RAs or other campus housing people to put pressure on the rogues running rogues.
I have also knocked on doors and asked them to turn it off (when it’s something that can’t be taken care of by disabling a wired port). That is also very effective (after they deny having anything and I point to the device in their room and say “there it is”). Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 [AusColl_Logo_Email] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Williams, Matthew Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices Haha, nothing like a good public shaming to get what you want. Respectfully, Matthew Williams IT Manager, Wireless Kent State University Office: (330) 672-7246 Mobile: (330) 469-0445 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices Part of the rogue defense posture is very much non-technical. Many years ago, we drafted policy that was endorsed by our CIO and we did a lot of education with across our admin spaces and with our distributed support folks. Once they bought in to removing rogues as being in everybody’s interest (and as we grew a really good WLAN), they become partners and enforcers to us in the networking group. We’ve had extremely good luck on a very large campus for several years keeping rogues out based *mostly* on crafting a good message and providing solid, reliable Wi-Fi. Then there’s the dorms… All of the above applies, except buy-in isn’t as uniform. We do a lot of education at move-in time, and have various tricks to find and have the students remove their rogues without leaving the office. In all cases, the response is “I didn’t know!” despite many, many communications of various types on the topic. My dream: a digital sign in each dorm lobby that scrolls network news, tips, etc- and spreads some shame. Like “If your Wi-Fi seems slow near rooms 625-629, it may be because someone has a network called Frankie’s Airport creaming the campus network.” Using PI/MSE to get close to signal then let peer pressure fix the problem. ☺ Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christopher Michael Allison Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices We are in the same boat we use Prime and MSE. Resources are in issue. I wish we could still use the containment feature that Prime and the AP's have for the Rogues. We are currently doing a building by building sweep of our Academic Buildings to remove all the Rogues that aren't managed by our department. Its a slow and long process. CHRISTOPHER ALLISON Network Engineer I Information Technology Mail Code 4622 625 Wham Drive Carbondale, Illinois 62901 chris.m.alli...@siu.edu<mailto:%20chris.m.alli...@siu.edu> P: 618 / 453 - 8415 F: 618 / 453 - 5261 INFOTECH.SIU.EDU<http://infotech.siu.edu/> [http://asset.siu.edu/_assets/images/email_sig/SIU_email_2line.gif] "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." Confucius ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Reams, Lane <lane.re...@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:lane.re...@vanderbilt.edu>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:37 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices We use Prime Infrastructure and MSE. With Prime, if you add both APs and switches, you can shut off wired port to disconnect rogue, but you still have the RF interference to deal with. Works pretty good other than all the issues with Prime, but as a whole, this solution works. Just wish we had resources to go after all the rogues . . . they are everywhere. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bibin George Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:11 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices Thanks for the reply.. We have cisco 3700/3600 Aps, looking for the solution for both wireless and wired even if it is a two separate product. If I can locate them would be perfect. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:39 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices Which wireless system are you using? What type of rogue devices are you most interested in? (rogue on a wire, neighboring device, etc.) Do you need to also locate these rogue devices? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bibin George Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Rogue Devices Can anyone suggest a good tool that I can detect/ prevent Rogue devices out in the network. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
