Lee – Thanks for the compliment and for the segue into some important 
information.

Have you ever sent an e-mail and feel like it really just didn’t say enough?  I 
got so excited to send out the information on drones that I feel like I left 
out the most important parts.  I told myself that I was going to wait for 
everyone to ask about licensing and location etc., but I decided it was just 
too important.


1)       I AM NOT AN EXPERT

2)      You would need to make sure that it is in a location that is good to  
fly.  I use this http://www.mapbox.com/drone/no-fly/ to find if my location is 
good.  If you are in these areas, “indoor” testing only. But you can still 
check for the issues I listed and I’m sure someone will find more uses.  Check.

3)      Licensing is still via FAA.  At the point of which you use the device 
for checking APs like this it will probably become “commercial use”.  I’m 
wondering if I can get a clearance for a certain height, location etc., so that 
I could use it on campus.  Check.

4)      GPS system will need to be on your drone.  I believe some drones will 
have some of the above in its firmware to make sure that you cannot fly within 
5 miles of an airport etc.  Recheck.

So this just led me to a bunch of question:
If it becomes commercial can I start a business for checking things like this?
How will this work state to state to state?
How many hours of flight time do I need (per state)?
What type of commercial license(s) (per state)?
What kind of exemption am I looking for?
If I get passed all of that, will it pass campus committee for use?

Ok, well I think you get the picture, this is not a class and as stated I’m not 
an expert.  Anyway, bottom line is this, check, check and recheck, become a 
responsible drone pilot.

PS – I now feel like I am just rambling…and now you know why I don’t chime in 
very often.  Keep the information flowing!


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using Drones in network support?

You da man, Clint. Thanks for the input, and please keep the list in mind if 
you find new successes that the rest of us might benefit from☺

I did my undergrad at Embry-Riddle, and they also have degrees in drone related 
disciplines. Ah, to be young again!

-Lee

Lee Badman
Wireless/Network Architect
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
(Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com)

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ringgold, Clint
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:45 AM
To: 
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All,

I don’t chime in very often but...  I have a few drones that I have used to 
inspect things (unofficially).  It is a big time saver (considering I’m short), 
 I don’t even need a ladder anymore.  I have used it to make sure the correct 
lights are on, check for bees, wasps, etc., and line of sight from a particular 
location.

The other issue for me is, I am trying to hack my drone to see if I could get 
it to connect to my SSID and roam as normal (theoretically  across campus)  and 
still be able to control it from my remote controller.

FSU also has a new course for Drone Training (College of Social Sciences and 
Public Policy - 
http://coss.fsu.edu/news/new-course-inaugurates-drone-training).  I missed the 
first class but hope to enter the next one.

Clint Ringgold
Florida State University
Network Administrator




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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Oliver Elliott
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:28 AM
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A drone with a "plug a cable in" arm would be amazing as well. I eagerly await 
our drone army.

On 26 June 2015 at 16:26, Lee H Badman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Scot-

I thought of that briefly, would probably come down to exec sponsorship and how 
it’s use was packaged/promoted. After I hit the “send” button, I realized a lot 
of different campus departments would probably have a use case if they thought 
about it.

-Lee


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 On Behalf Of Jon Scot Prunckle
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Lee,



 - Long time listener, first time caller -



I like where you're going with this.  I doubt we'd get it past our legal 
department, but it would be a real timesaver...and a lot of fun.


Sincerely,


J. Scot Prunckle
Network Engineer
UITS Network and Operations Services
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Office Mobile: (414) 416-9709
E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of Lee H Badman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:11 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using Drones in network support?

Yeah- I know it sounds a bit silly at first pass. At the same time… we have a 
lot of outside cameras and external AP antennas, along with a dozen wireless 
bridges. My first thought is physical inspection via high res photography/video 
from drones like the Phantom 3, whether it be for installed devices or survey 
work. Second use case- hovering outside of building to try to zero in on rogue 
signals (would be easy as pie on some buildings, impractical on others) with 
the right analysis device as a payload.

And… it would be a lot of fun, so let’s just get that right out there.

Has anyone gone down this road at all? I can’t be the only one with these silly 
thoughts rattling around in the noggin!

-Lee Badman



Lee Badman
Wireless/Network Architect
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003



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