Same here.

Mike

Michael Dickson
Network Analyst
Information Technology
University of Massachusetts Amherst
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On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Jason Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Debbie. Wish we could include some technical detail in some of our 
> comms like that.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Jason Cook
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
> Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fligor, Debbie
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 11:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple OSX 10.11 beta
> 
> This went out to our campus IT community last Friday, it has some nice 
> details about what the wireless/radius team was seeing:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Earlier this week we sent a communication about issues that the iOS 9 and El 
> Capitan betas had connecting to the campus network.  We are happy to announce 
> that the issue has been resolved. While Technology Services does not 
> encourage customers to rely on betas for production or every-day work, both 
> of the current beta releases are able to connect to IllinoisNet. If you have 
> questions regarding this message please contact [email protected].
> 
> *For those with a desire to better understand the technical changes and their 
> impacts, feel free to read the additional detail below.
> 
> On 2015-07-23 a set of security updates was deployed to the RADIUS servers 
> which handle logins for IllinoisNet and eduroam wireless.  One of these 
> changes was an upgrade to the latest version of Net::SSLeay (which provides 
> perl bindings for OpenSSL) to allow clients to negotiate
> TLSv1.1 and TLSv1.2 (as well as TLSv1.0) for the EAP-TTLS tunnel used in
> WPA2 Enterprise authentication.  Many modern wireless clients still use
> TLSv1.0 in practice, but Apple OS X El Capitan and iOS 9 do use TLSv1.2, and 
> as a result of this upgrade they are now able to successfully connect to 
> IllinoisNet and eduroam.
> 
> What remains surprising is that, prior to deploying these updates, our test 
> iOS 9 client was able to successfully make it all the way through the RADIUS 
> authentication stage of 802.11i (producing a RADIUS Access-Accept); it failed 
> only during the subsequent four-way handshake to construct the PTK (by which 
> point the RADIUS server is no longer involved, leading us to believe that the 
> problem resided elsewhere). 
> Subsequent re-testing reveals that even with the older Net:SSLeay installed, 
> the RADIUS server would respond to the TLSv1.2 Client Hello with a TLSv1.2 
> Server Hello, and side by side comparisons of the unencrypted portions of 
> traffic captures in a lab environment show no obvious differences in the 
> ensuing conversation depending on which Net:SSLeay is installed.  We can only 
> speculate at this point that perhaps the combination of a modern openssl 
> library with an old Net:SSLeay was somehow superficially _appearing_ to 
> correctly support
> TLSv1.2 while in fact producing some subtly different behavior which 
> eventually caused iOS 9 to give up on the connection process.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 18:55, Jason Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for the input, greatly appreciated. We are freeradius 2.2.6 
>> and I’m not sure what opensslchance that this is our problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Time to get fixing with all this infoJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jason Cook
>> 
>> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
>> 
>> Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Walter 
>> Reynolds
>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 2:49 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple OSX 10.11 beta
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The problem we had was because we were running freeradius 2.2.6 and I do not 
>> remember version of openssl (1.something) which does support TLSv1.2. There 
>> would be a problem after authentication with the 4 way handshake. So you 
>> would see a user authenticate every 6 second or so and not receive an IP 
>> from the Mac paint of view.
>> 
>> Running freeradius 2.2.6 with an older version of openssl (.9 something) 
>> would not support TLSv1.2 so no problem. 
>> 
>> Freeradius 2.2.7 fixes some TLS issues which fixed the issue.
>> 
>> I know aruba's clearpass is based on freeradius but not sure how close it is 
>> so as one person said they did need to upgrade that as well.
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2015 10:20 AM, "Turner, Ryan H" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I have also just pinged our campus users.  Already have a lot of users 
>> running the platform with no issues.
>> 
>> We are running a full EAP-TLS deployment with Aruba Controllers running 
>> 6.4.2.8 running an older 2.1 freeradius.
>> 
>> Ryan H Turner
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, 
>> NC 27599
>> +1 919 445 0113 Office
>> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:48 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple OSX 10.11 beta
>> 
>> I'm polling our Apple adventurists on this. I did talk to one valued 
>> colleague who said he ran 10.11 for a bit on one machine and had no issues 
>> on our WPA2 Cisco campus networks. He's going to build another test machine 
>> and try it again, and hopefully I'll hear from at least a couple of other 
>> bleeding edgers on this end.
>> 
>> Lee Badman | Network Architect
>> Information Technology Services
>> 206 Machinery Hall
>> 120 Smith Drive
>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e [email protected] w its.syr.edu SYRACUSE 
>> UNIVERSITY syr.edu
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:01 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple OSX 10.11 beta
>> 
>> On Mon Jul 27 2015 01:27:57 CDT, Jason Cook <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also seems worth noting that certs will need to be 1024bit. Our 
>>> certs are 1024 so expecting that to be ok for us 
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/935756/mac-os-el-capitan-10-11-not-ab
>>> le
>>> -to-connect-to-wifiwpa-2-enterprise
>>> 
>> 
>> Note that the certificate bit length is different from the Diffie-Hellman 
>> group bit length; the latter is what is referred to in that document.
>> 
>> Also worth noting is that there are other Apple documents that say that OS X 
>> 10.10.4 and iOS 8.4 require a 2048-bit DH group, so there appears to be some 
>> discrepancy at least in the docs.
>> 
>> We had to upgrade both ClearPass (6.5.2 plus a patch) and our Aruba 
>> controller code (6.4.2.9) to get both iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 to work with our 
>> 802.1X network.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julian Y. Koh
>> Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services 
>> Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT)
>> 
>> 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166
>> Evanston, IL 60208
>> 847-467-5780
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>> Key:<http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html>
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