My observations: the current pre-standard product suite that use the LTE-protocol on the 5Gh band are targeting indoor, not outdoor.
All marketing and communications on LTE and 5Ghz band is around mobile operators and their need for spectrum. From a technical perspective, I must admit that LTE is a more efficient protocol than Wi-Fi is. So, in addition to preventing that operators ruin the spectrum at our Wi-Fi facilities we should also knock on the doors of our Wi-Fi vendors and asking them how they integrate LTE-U (or another flavour) in their Wi-Fi product offering for our benefits. Frankly speaking, I do not care whether the radio communication uses Wi-Fi, LTE or what ever protocol as long as it does its job well and efficiently. -Frans Brian Helman schreef op 28/08/15 om 03:42: > Mike, > > I was just about to post the same quote, and I looked down and saw it > in your post. > > How viable is 5GHz in this situation? I mean, we've now rolled out > two AC buildings. The signals go through 1 wall fine, but 2 walls or > a single outside wall and the signal is non-existent. If they won't > be allowed to crank it up to 11, is it useful? What am I missing? > > -Brian > ' > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike King > [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LTE over Wi-Fi spectrum sets up > industry-wide fight over interference > > > Quote from the article: > T-Mobile wrote. Qualcomm said its testing > <http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001104452> shows that > Wi-Fi access points often have better throughput when sharing a > channel with LTE-U than when sharing a channel with another Wi-Fi > access point. > > Here's my comment: > We'll duh. Two AP's on the same channel is something we try to > avoid, because "It's Bad®". How about comparing throughput of an AP > with no interference (Cause that's what we call two AP's on the same > channel), and a AP with LTE-U on the same channel. > > Mike > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Coehoorn, Joel <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The good news is that LTE-U still has the same power limitations > as other unlicensed uses. Telecom companies won't be able to > easily provision an LTE-U "tower" every 30 meters within our > campus, limiting their ability to cause interference. > > Instead, I see them mostly using this fill coverage gabs by > selling wifi routers with an LTE-U service built-in for rural and > other underserved areas. Additionally, I see them using this to > try to push their backhaul costs onto other providers. A Verizon > could get a Cox to help foot their transit bill by selling their > special routers to customers at just below their cost. Consumers > would buy these routers because they are cheaper, and suddenly > Verizon gets some "free" spectrum in that area and can manage > things so the call terminates at the Verizon location nearest the > other end of the conversation. > > The biggest risk on our end is probably having students bringing > routers with this ability into their residences, but we can deal > with that the same way we've always done... well, almost, > depending on how the whole Mariott thing turns out. > > > > > > Joel Coehoorn > Director of Information Technology > 402.363.5603 <tel:402.363.5603> > *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>* > > > > > The mission of York College is to transform lives through > Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong > service to God, family, and society > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Thomas Carter > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Don’t forget the WiFi SLA discussion – another source of > interference outside of our control. > > > > Thomas Carter > > Network and Operations Manager > > Austin College > > > > *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of > *Philippe Hanset > *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:17 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] LTE over Wi-Fi spectrum sets up > industry-wide fight over interference > > > > We can now combine three threads that we have had over the > summer on this list > > 5 GHz, Containment, and the LTE-U controversy (this thread > just started) > > > > LTE-U and Jamming…will my Wi-Fi equipment provider enable > LTE-U “containment” and as a University/College how can I > prevent LTE-U from interfering > > with my 5GHz deployment. > > > > Oh boy… > > > > Philippe > > > > Philippe Hanset > > www.eduroam.us <http://www.eduroam.us> > > > > > > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Hinson, Matthew P > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Source: > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/verizon-and-t-mobile-join-forces-in-fight-for-wi-fi-airwaves/#p3 > > > > It was only a matter of time. > > > > Thank you! > > Matthew Hinson > > Supervisor, Network Operations > > ********** Participation and subscription information for > this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be > found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
