Though not in residence halls (yet), we are currently in the process of 
installing the 702Ws in a new 300+ seat auditorium under the table tops. The 
rows of tables with attached seating already had channels under the top for 
wired data (which we will not use for the intended purpose) plus power (for 
both 100 VAC outlets as well as USB power outlets). There is space between this 
tray and the front modesty panel to mount the 702W using a half-depth plastic 
outlet box. The Ethernet cable to the APs will run in the tray section devoted 
to wired Ethernet. It emptied at each end to an under-the-floor conduit back to 
our comm closet.

A mock up of this design was done in a smaller venue with similar tables & 
trays. Our measurements showed that we could provide relatively small cells 
(8-12 seats) with this method. We hope it really works. We will see in the fall 
when this new classroom building opens.

The major problem we have with the 702Ws is that they lack 802.11ac radios.This 
is not a major stumbling block for me right now. But, so far it has held us up 
from using them in the residence halls where they would probably have to last 
at least 5 years before we could refresh them. Very nice pricing though. An 
alternate uplink port that was not on the back side would also be nice (this 
would have made our current installation even slimmer (though tests show that 
the power/data tray provides good protection from damage).

We also look forward to the new Cisco 2800/3800 Wave 2 WAPs. I wonder why our 
local Cisco SE hasn't mentioned them to us.


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-jcw
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco 2800/3800 Wave 2 WAPs - thoughts on new 
flexible radio assignment?

Yes, the flexible radio design is definitely interesting.  I’m interested to 
see how it plays out in terms of shuffling clients between APs based on what 
radio is available.

I wanted to ask…have you considered the 702W for your res halls?  It really 
seems to be the way to go in terms of creating small cells for the myriad 
devices that existing in that setting.  We have a new dorm going up as well and 
with our experience with the 3502i’s, which grants has not been bad, but I 
really see the benefit of going with the 702w style.

-dan



Dan Brisson
Network Engineer
University of Vermont

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco 2800/3800 Wave 2 WAPs - thoughts on new 
flexible radio assignment?

For the Cisco shops:

I recently had a briefing on the new Cisco 2800/3800 Wave 2 WAPs coming in May, 
and I’m pretty excited for the new flexible radio design. For those that have 
not read up on it, in the new models one of the two radios can dynamically move 
(self optimize) between 2.4 and 5 GHz depending on need (coverage/performance) 
or function (Serve clients, security monitoring, service assurance aka be a 
client, or enhanced location).

Seems like Cisco is addressing one of my long standing concerns/wishes, that 
when designing dense deployments, that the number of 2.4 GHz radios become 
overkill and wasted. The new model provides for much better 5 GHz coverage 
(lots of WAPs running 5GHz x 2) with just enough running 2.4 GHz to handle 
legacy needs. It’s going to make my life much easier when designing for our 
residential halls.

Any of the other Cisco shops excited for the new flexible radio feature? 
Thoughts? I have a new residence hall coming online in August so the timing is 
great.

Jeff


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