Thank you all for the responses to this thread and the other I posted (re 
segment sizes).  One of the driving reasons behind switching from the smaller 
vendor we were using to Aruba is the ability to reach out to peers to have 
specific vendor-based questions answered.  I feel strongly that our previous 
manufacturer has excellent products (we'll be continuing to use them for years 
to come in current installs), but reinventing the wheel was exhausting.

Thanks again for all your help/suggestions/info!

-Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam T Ferrero
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba and Bradford


  We are very happy with our Aruba Clearpass implementation.  We brought it in 
for host integrity checking in our residence halls and have continued to add 
more services.  It handled Meru and now Aruba wireless as well as our Avaya 
wired infrastructure.  It is feature rich and very flexible.

  We have 6,000 students in Temple managed residence halls (13 - 15k devices) 
with less than 5% of the devices connecting wired.  We do force the Onguard 
agent on Windows and MACs and require our managed anti-virus.  Other devices 
can just authenticate and work against wireless WPA2 enterprise SSID or wired 
.1x.  Non .1x capable devices are self-registered by the students into 
Clearpass (they add the mac address and we then mac auth accept them).  We 
built out all the pretty captive portal pages so onboarding process is terribly 
smooth and self service.

  We've rolled all our enterprise WPA2 enterprise authentication onto Clearpass 
as well (~50,000 concurrent clients).  I was against the purchase initially two 
years ago (being a freeradius / Packet Fence fanatic) but it has served us 
superbly.  Last fall showed the lowest Help Desk ticket volume of any move-in 
ever.  Here's hoping we all do equally well this fall.

  Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Helman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba and Bradford

Thanks everyone.  Keep the info flowing ...

Bruce, we're a mixed shop on the wired side.  Since 2011 we've been a Juniper 
shop.  Before that, and I still have a lot of their gear that I haven't 
upgraded, we were Alcatel(-Lucent).

Those of you who are using ClearPass, anyone have a mixed wireless shop (ie, 
did you start with another vendor and move to Aruba)?  I'm curious if you 
avoided using ClearPass on the other wireless or embraced it, and to what level 
of success?

So, how many of your friends/acquaintances think you all get the summer off, 
because we work in academia?  This is all great information everyone!

-Brian 

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Services)
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba and Bradford

Brian,

What wired vendor are you using?  I know for Cisco wired switches, you can pass 
the vlan name (as defined on the access switch) instead of the vlan ID for a 
role. This lets you have many student VLANs in the network, for instance.

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Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless
 
(434) 592-4229
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bucklaew, Jerry [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: Aruba and Bradford

Brian,

    We are a bradford shop and are migrating to clearpass.  We used the 
bradford for registration or our resnet as well as our wireless gaming network. 
 It worked ok, but my major issues with it were..

1. Bradford is designed around vlan switching, moving ports from one vlan to 
the other.  Vlan switch is labor/process intensive to setup/run because it 
needs to know about every switch, needs to know about every link change and 
needs to talk to every switch.

2. Bradford is not flexible when it comes to passing back radius attributes.  
For example you can pass back only one attribute, interface-name I think.  You 
can not do multiple.

3. Bradford is not flexible about registration, the device needs to be on the 
network in order to register.  User admin of registration does not exists.


We moved to clearpass for our wirelesss network and it is just a much more 
flexible system.  It can do almost anything, very customizable.  Our main 
driver was dorm Ap's.  By moving to dorm ap's (every other room) we are putting 
half our wired ports through the aruba system.  To get the same look and feel 
from a user perspective both wired and dorm ap wired need to be off the same 
system.  We moved away from vlan switching to 802.1x/mac off on the dorm ap's 
and a inline 
system for the rest of the wired ports.   Eventually we are moving to 
802.1x/mac off for everything, away from vlan 
switching.  Besides the same look and feel, it gives us a much more flexible 
registration system and a very nice "my devices" portal so users can manage 
their own registrations.

I can give more specifics if you need it.


On 7/19/2016 5:10 PM, Brian Helman wrote:
> Feel free to ping me off-list.  I may sanitize/redact comments and repost 
> them for the benefit of others though..
>
>
>
> If you are an Aruba AND Bradford shop, what was you reason for using 
> Bradford vs Clearpass?  Our primary interest in NAC is onboarding and 
> guest networks (wired and wireless).  We are currently a Bradford 
> shop.  I don’t see a reason to change, but I’d like to understand the 
> benefits (or drawbacks) for staying with Bradford (or moving to Clearpass, 
> for that matter).
>
>
>
> If you migrated from Bradford to Clearpass, would you do it again?  Pains?  
> Successes?
>
>
>
>

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