And that code quality! > On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Really Bruce? LOL > > Thank you for the advice, but I for one will stick with class-leading/unique > technology innovations in the Cisco stuff, like DBS (dynamic bandwidth > selection), CleanAir, and FRA (Flexible Radio Assignment) just to name a > few. > > Jeff > > > On 8/11/16, 4:39 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > on behalf of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)" > <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > Perhaps you should consider Aruba Networks / HP Enterprise. > > They eliminated "burned-in" licenses on controllers but if you replace one > of them, they will generate licenses for your replacement, at least in our > experience. > > We do not purchase support on most of our APs since they have a lifetime > warranty anyway. For some unusual or mission-critical applications > (point-to-point for instance) we purchase the hardware support to get quicker > replacements. We *do* pay support the licenses (AP & other) on our > controllers but central licensing helps us maximize the value of our licenses. > > > Bruce Osborne > Wireless Engineer > IT Network Oprations - Wireless > > (434) 592-4229 > > LIBERTY UNIVERSITY > Training Champions for Christ since 1971 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Newton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless Mobility > >> On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 08:46:28PM +0000, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote: >> On limiting the 8510 to 3000 WAPs, and then adding another 8510 pair. >> Since the 8500 series are subject to Cisco’s new and improved RTU >> licensing, instead of adding another pair of 8510’s, purchase a pair >> of 8540’s and move the 8510’s 3000 AP licenses to the new 8540 along >> with the additional licenses. > > Except that Cisco don't treat the 8510 and the 8540 as the same "family", > so they won't let you move AP licences between them. > We've just been through this, and I raised the same question... > "they're 85xx, so we can just move our 8510 AP licences to the new > 8540 hardware". Which Cisco confirmed that we couldn't. :( > > Why they couldn't call it the 9540 (or even the 8640) to make that clear I > have no idea, but then there are 7500/5520 controllers in the same families, > so it's a right mess. I *think* I worked out that the Flex7500 and 8510 are > in one family, and the 5520/8540/vWLC are in another, but I'm not entirely > sure. It was certainly implied that we could move the licences to some > different controllers, just not the 8540. > > > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/flex-7500-series-wireless-controllers/qa_c67-713536.html > seems to also imply you can't even move from e.g. a 5520 to a 8540, only > between exactly the same model. > > And of course you also can't move the base licences from a controller to > any other controller. Only the adder licences are transferrable. So if you > bought a controller with 1000 base licenses, and a couple of 1000 adder > licences to get up to 3000, on the 2000 extra can be moved. > > Really, it would be better if Cisco stopped the AP licences nonsense > completely and just added £50 to the cost of each AP. But I guess the current > way makes them a lot more money... > >> I mention this because the zero-AP 8510 and 8540 are the exact same >> list price, so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to get the 8510’a. Oh, >> and instead of smartnet on four 8510 controllers, it’s just smartnet >> on two 8540’s. > > Charging maintenance on controller AP licences is also dodgy IMO (or "good > business practise", from Cisco's point of view), and definitely something to > watch out for if you have lots of spare controller AP licences around. > > Matthew > > > -- > Matthew Newton, Ph.D. <[email protected]> > > Systems Specialist, Infrastructure Services, I.T. Services, University of > Leicester, Leicester LE1 7RH, United Kingdom > > For IT help contact helpdesk extn. 2253, <[email protected]> > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >
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