Ryan,

I'd be interested in getting a copy of your powerpoint as well, if that is
OK.

Thanks!

Jess Walczak
Senior Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
jwwalc...@stthomas.edu
University of St. Thomas | stthomas.edu


On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Turner, Ryan H <rhtur...@email.unc.edu>
wrote:

> Ying,
>
> My contact information is below.  I have a powerpoint from a presentation
> I made over our experiences.  It isn't something I am going to publish to
> the list, but I will send it to people that email me directly.  Happy to
> help you on this journey.  There are a lot of pitfalls.
>
>
> Ryan Turner
> Manager of Network Operations
> ITS Communication Technologies
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>
> r...@unc.edu
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ying Zhang
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:09 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> This is very good information. We are currently in the process of RFP for
> a NAC solution. Anything we should watch out for with regards to the
> onboarding platform? Any information you could share would be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ying
> Enterprise Network Architect
> Information Technology Services
> University of New Brunswick
> Fredericton, NB, E3B 5A3
> Phone: (506) 447-3014
> Cell: (506) 449-0661
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:22 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> There is more to it than just the onboarding platform.  Regardless of what
> onboarding platform you use, the actual onboarding SSID and associated
> captive portal is extremely important at reducing helpdesk calls.  We've
> gone through several iterations over a few years and think we finally got
> it right.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Muraca, Peppino P.
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> This is great information, I have been worried that this will create a ton
> of support calls. The key seems to make sure the onboarding system is a
> good one, we are also a cloudpath shop, but are hoping to get to clearpass.
>
> -Pino
>
> Peppino Muraca
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Stonehill College
> 508-565-1193
> pmur...@stonehill.edu
>               (OO=[][]=OO)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:13 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> The Android experience is still good in my opinion, just weaker than iOS
> when you incorporate the Play Store.  (I think ISE links to the Play Store
> too).  Luckily, Cloudpath has the option of directly downloading the certs
> instead of requiring the app from the Play Store.  Of course, a profile
> based option (What Google does with ChromeOS) negates the need for any link
> to the Play Store.
>
> -Curtis
>
> ________________________________________
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Turner, Ryan H <
> rhtur...@email.unc.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:03 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> Android is definitely 'the' problem.  In our stats, you can see that they
> are only 10% of the clients we onboard, but are closer to 90% of the
> trouble tickets.  We were a Cloudpath customer and made the switch to
> SecureW2 (the android experience was a big reason).
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:55 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> We've been offering EAP-TLS for about 2 years.  It's been the only
> supported option for BYOD for just over a year.  Personally, I think the
> user experience is pretty good across all devices  (Android is weaker but
> still not bad).  I've heard rumblings that Android might be changing to a
> profile method more similar to ChromeOS ...so that would probably improve
> things.  Our stats are eerily similar to Ryan's but we use the Cloudpath
> Enrollment System, and we have not disabled PEAP yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Curtis K. Larsen
> Senior Network Engineer
> University of Utah IT/CIS
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Turner, Ryan H <
> rhtur...@email.unc.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:53 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> We are a very experienced shop with TLS.  We've been using certificates
> for 4 years.  We now use the SecureW2 onboarding platform to perform the
> operation, and we have been VERY happy with the results.  Attached below is
> our statistics for onboarding from the Fall of 2015 to today.  I would be
> happy to help you out.  My contact information is below.  In short, we've
> onboarded over 160,000 devices in the last two years (over 300k in 4).
>
> [cid:image001.jpg@01D213EE.09553910]
>
>
> Ryan Turner
> Manager of Network Operations
> ITS Communication Technologies
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>
> r...@unc.edu<mailto:r...@unc.edu>
> +1 919 445 0113 Office
> +1 919 274 7926 Mobile
>
>
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Muraca, Peppino P.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:39 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x certificate authentication
>
> Hello all,  I was wondering who or if anyone is using 802.1x cert auth for
> all wireless devices, and if you are, what is the experience with student
> devices ?
>
> We are currently 802.1x username password , and have been thinking about
> the going the cer route. I feel the cert auth is still a painful experience
> for DYOD devices.
>
> Thank you
> Pino
>
> Peppino Muraca
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Stonehill College
> 508-565-1193
> pmur...@stonehill.edu<mailto:pmur...@stonehill.edu>
>               (OO=[][]=OO)
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