I hate to ask, but do you have AVC enabled?

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> On Mar 8, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Watters, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'll check the load on our most loaded 8510 HA pair in the morning & get back 
> to you. It is about 2300-2500 APs with at least that many concurrent clients. 
> Running 8.0.140.0 though (we moved there from a 7.6 (126 ?) level and Cisco 
> recommended that we move to 8.0.140 before going on up to 8.3). 
> 
> We just bought a new 8510HA pair for this same MPLS area to divide the load. 
> It is running, but has no load at all yet. Was thinking of starting it on 8.3 
> code. So, I am very interested in your problem and tghe solution. Please be 
> sure to post it.
> 
> 
> 
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> -jcw
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 10:28:09 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8510 8.2 Load Issues 
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> Just wondering if anyone has had an similar experiences to the fun we’ve had 
> the last week or so.        
>  
> Towards the end of last year we moved to new 8510 HA pair on 8.2.121.11 (we 
> had an issue in testing at the time so grabbed the latest ER release that 
> resolved a crash bug)
> From 5x5508’s in N+1 on 8.0.121.0 code
> We started before the end of term with a small number of locations but didn’t 
> fully load it up until the big break. Now the students are back and needing 
> there internet we have had some real load issues during the day.
>  
> SO it’s 2x 8510’s in HA about 2100 AP’s peaking at about 14k concurrent 
> clients but the issue seems to creep in at about 10k. While ICMP isn’t the 
> greatest tool for performance it does line up here, the graph below show 
> around 10am we see increased delays in response to the vlan42 (client 
> network) interface on the controller and we see this on its management 
> interface too. At this point our clients ICMP to its  own gateway starts to 
> increase  from 1-3ms to 400-600 and even upto 1800 when the big spike shows 
> 800ms to the interface. Iperf testing will also go from 100Mb down to 1-5 and 
> even 0 at times. With users complaining of slowness and it’s worse unable to 
> login.
>  
> CPU/Memory resources, channel util etc all ok. It’s site wide impact to users 
> no matter if it’s HD rf design or what AP model (1142, 2702,3702,3502 etc) So 
> seems in the controller itself. All testing done on 5hz
>  
> Around midday we started migrating AP’s away to our old 5508’s, which saw a 
> significant drop just before 12:30 and things back to normal at 12:40  once 
> 300AP’s were moved off. So for now users are happy, apparently we’ve even had 
> callers in saying how good it is today (must have been bad the last week for 
> that to happen). Controller response to SNMP was so bad it was taking Prime 2 
> minutes per AP to re-configure primary controller. Did it by hand, ssh/gui 
> response was not it’s normal self but no problem. The 5508’s have shown no 
> signs of being unhappy with about 150 AP’s each. 
>  
> We are working with TAC who have been good and they are investigating(no like 
> cases found though), shedding the load has worked around the issue but it 
> needs fixing. We upgraded to 8.2.141.0 yesterday evening but won’t be 
> re-loading the 8510’s until next week so confirming it’s fixed is a few days 
> off. There’s a few short upto 30ms delayed ICMP responses today but it’s hard 
> to know if that’s related or just the nature of icmp and network gear 
> priority.
>  
> Interested to know if anyone has seen anything like this in their environment.
> And anyone if anyone out there is using 8510’s in HA what’s your load in AP 
> and concurrent users? I can imagine many places loading their devices up more 
> than us
> Anyone know how to look at other hardware resources (not CPU/memory/system 
> buffers) Something like ASIC on switches if it exists. Surely all this 
> traffic isn’t cpu
>  
> Thanks
> 
> Jason
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