Just finally got around to catching up on the Listserv.

Shane, have you found a resolution to this issue?

The default ARP timers on Cisco 6500 are actually 14400 seconds(4 hours).  The 
default MAC address timers are 5 minutes. These were both Cisco standard up 
until Nexus(to my knowledge). 

Nexus uses a default ARP timer of 1500 seconds(25 minutes). The MAC address 
timer in Nexus is 1800 seconds(30 minutes). You'll notice that the ARP timer 
used to be longer than the MAC timers. Cisco has rightfully moved to a default 
that keeps the ARP timers lower than the MAC timers in order to reduce flooding 
of unicast frames.

Did you change the ARP or MAC timers and what value did you set?

Do any network devices in your environment have "ip device tracking" turned on? 
There is plenty of reading on Google about the problems this can cause. We saw 
this previous to our Nexus deployment with a some 3750X switches running 15.2 
IOS. 


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shayne Ghere
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC OSX Duplicate IP's

Hello Bruce,

Thanks for the info.  I read the info about the ARP Caching in FlexConnect mode 
and didn't never enabled it due to some issues others were having before we set 
everything up in September 2016.  The second link was the bug on the 5500's I 
read about.

The mac add count is only 10660, which isn't that high so we're leaning to the 
ARP Timeout in the Nexus switches being set at 1500 by default to 300 like they 
were in the 6500's before the upgrade.

We made the timeout change a little over an hour ago, and so far so good, but 
there's still 13 hours to go.  Ha ha

Thanks again
Shayne

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC OSX Duplicate IP's
Importance: High


  Are your APs in Flexconnect mode and if so do you have flex connect arp cache 
enabled?  If so you might want to try disabling ARP caching.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/8-2/config-guide/b_cg82/b_cg82_chapter_010010101.html

https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCuy29143



  What model of card are the devices connected to on the Nexus 7ks?

  And how many MAC addresses are in the MAC address table (the layer 2 table, 
not the ARP table)?  (check  with "show mac address count”)

  We saw different symptoms when the MAC MAC address table was exceeded but it 
is still worth checking to eliminate as a possible problem.




> On Feb 27, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Shayne Ghere <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I’m reaching out since we just started having problems with users 
> complaining about getting messages on their Mac’s about a duplicate IP 
> address on the network.
>
> When looking in the ARP table of the Cisco Nexus switches, the mac 
> address of their computer isn’t in there, however the IP address their 
> machine has is owned by another mac address even though both the 
> Controller and Prime doesn’t see that machine associated.
>
> I came across an article that the Arp Cache Timeout on the 6509’s was 300
> seconds, but the Nexus (7K) has bumped it to 1500-1800 seconds now.   That
> jives with what I’m seeing as the disassociation time of the original 
> machine, and the duplicate message (within 20-25 minutes).
>
> The Arp-Cache timeout on the Controller is set for 1800 seconds, and 
> was configured that way since September 2016 (Cisco WLC 8540) with no 
> problems.
>
> This problem just cropped up within the past two weeks and is gaining 
> steam.  Out of the 30 or so devices, 38 are Mac’s and the other two 
> are Windows 10 or Microsoft Surface tablets.
>
> This is only happening on our Secure 802.1x wireless network.
>
> We use Microsoft NPS for Radius and Linux DHCP/DNS.
>
> If anyone else is experiencing these issues, or could point us in the 
> right direction, I would greatly appreciate it.  Our Server/Radius 
> team is fairly sure it’s not on their end, yet after talking with 
> Cisco, I’m fairly positive it’s not the Controller/Wireless.  Not 
> finger pointing, just asking for some advice.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Shayne
>
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> T. Shayne Ghere
> Bradley University
> Wireless/Lan Network Engineer
> 1501 W. Bradley Ave, Jobst 224A
> (309) 677-3094
> [email protected]
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North Dakota State University


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