Yes, we have had some who have had trouble in the past say they also sometimes 
had issues at Starbucks, et al. So the assumption that EDU is the only place 
they have issues may not be correct. I do think there should be better 
communication between wireless vendors, wireless device makers (esp Microsoft, 
Apple, and Google), and customers about these kind of changes. Why do we have 
to figure this out at all? It shouldn't be this hard.

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue 
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curtis K. Larsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Defeating Android 8.X Captive Portal detection

My comment had more to do with standardized captive browser behavior across 
operating systems than ease of use.  Unless you are inferring that all of EDU 
go without a captive portal.  Most of the public places I visit have a captive 
portal so I'd say the same questions apply there too.

-Curtis

________________________________________
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]> on behalf of Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Defeating Android 8.X Captive Portal detection

On 9/6/17, 8:46 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on 
behalf of Curtis K. Larsen" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:



    It would be really nice if Google would join the club and allow their 
captive browser to switch to a full browser after the internet is reachable, 
but until then I think it's the best we can do.





I'd argue, that again, why are we in EDU making it so hard for users with these 
devices to get access to WIFi? It those devices work in every other setting, be 
it at Starbucks, Panara, Hospitals, HomeDepot, and so on... Then EDU is doing 
something wrong.



The vendors will continue to support/do what's most compatible with "the rest 
of the world" so it's up to EDU to come to terms with why we are so different, 
and so device hostile.



Jeff

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