I’ll answer inline.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]> on behalf of "Lee, Steven" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 11:43 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WiFi infrastructure experiences/strategies?

There is quite a bit to think about here, so in an effort to keep the scope in 
a hopefully reasonable place, I’d love to hear what others are doing regarding 
the infrastructure (not so much the networking and RF at this point) and 
overall campus strategy.


  *   Has anyone already developed a comprehensive campus wide strategy?

     *   We have an informal strategy and have been trying to work with our 
Campus Architects to formalize it and get something we can work off of and 
expect to be allowed to deploy.  Our idea is to agree on a small number of 
options for deployment that is pre-approved and then ask to use “Option A” at a 
particular site.

  *   Did you leverage buildout of cellular micro sites?

     *   No.

  *   What kinds of locations/areas do you find that your users get the most 
value/appreciation out of the service?

     *   We are wanting to have complete coverage across our entire camus, but 
the priority areas are major walking paths, and green spaces.  We are starting 
to discover in heavy foot traffic areas people walking by can become a sort of 
DoS on Wi-Fi inside the building because they associate to indoor APs as they 
walk by and sometime max out the number of associations allowed.

  *   Where do you physically install the AP’s and has that kind of deployment 
been successful?

     *   rooftops with directional antennas?

        *   This is how most of our outdoor is deployed, but from a tall 
building there is a lot of signal loss just getting down to the ground and you 
want to be careful not to have the signal bleed back into the building too much 
and impact indoor coverage.  We also had to turn of “short-guard interval”.

     *   exterior wall mounts?

        *   We have some of this type on our new residence halls and I think 
from a performance perspective this is a much better scenario.  We have been 
allowed to build in the external wall mount on our residence halls because they 
are governed by our Housing and Food Services; on campus buildings it either 
adds too much cost to projects or the aesthetics don’t work and it has been 
much harder to get approved.  Existing buildings this has been a non-starter.

     *   building canopies/overhangs?

        *   One or two sites, but this has been a hard sell for the same 
reasons as external wall mounts.

     *   light poles?

        *   This would be ideal, but we have so many different types of 
lighting it is nearly impossible to find a consistent solution.  After trying 
to work with our campus architects the new lighting standard makes it nearly 
impossible to put any wires inside the pole or mount any antennas.

  *   Ideas on aesthetics/concealment/physical access?  Ive heard of a use-case 
where the AP has been buried in flower beds also small antennas in light pole 
globes.  How else do you hide the gear?  Any good/bad experiences with custom 
enclosures and/or external antennas?

     *   I have been trying to push the idea of using bollards, either close to 
buildings or other foliage areas.  This would allow for interior APs (if they 
meet regulatory specs) or eternal APs and puts the AP right at waist or chest 
level.

  *   Experiences (suggestions) with providing power for areas out of 802.3 
distance specs? Anyone use the hybrid fiber/copper products that are on the 
market?

     *   We have used Commscope’s hybrid fiber and have been really pleased 
with it; it save a lot of costs on the install and I find their product is 
really well designed and flexible.  Their system can fully power an AP-275 up 
to 1 mile and they can fully recover power with up to 50% loss.

  *   How do you plan pathway build-outs?   Do you leverage facilities and/or 
landscape construction to install conduit, etc?

     *   So far, we have been taking advantage of construction projects, but 
are considering using the mole tunneling to try to get into some areas.  We 
also have underground tunnel system we use to pull connections most of the way 
and then do what is needed from there.

  *   Any experience with putting hardened equipment (switches/aps) in 
underground enclosures?

     *   No direct experience with this but there are a number of vaults that 
can be buried and are designed for this purpose.
I could go on and on with questions but I’m really looking for general 
advice/suggestions/creative ideas/war stories from others who have already gone 
down this road.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Amel Caldwell
University of Washington UW-IT
Wi-Fi Network Engineer
Wi-Fi Service Manager

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
206-543-2915

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