I highly recommend looking at cambium’s offerings as well. e band is the direction I would go as well. I have also heard very good things about siklu links as well.
T.J. Norton Wireless Network Architect Network Operations Office: (434) 592-6552<tel:(434)%20592-6552> Liberty University | Training Champions for Christ since 1971 On Mar 23, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Mark Duling <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Oh you've already hit that limit. I missed the obvious. Thanks Lee. On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Lee H Badman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sure- I’m using all the available channels in this one location for those 24 GHz AirFIbers. Lee Badman | Network Architect Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200) Information Technology Services 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive Syracuse, New York 13244 t 315.443.3003<tel:(315)%20443-3003> f 315.443.4325<tel:(315)%20443-4325> e [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w its.syr.edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fits.syr.edu&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=ztVQM0xefeCwieJBM%2BXvkbDe%2F2PcygK6n1yzJ6rE76s%3D&reserved=0> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY syr.edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsyr.edu&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=4SdUZZPpB88%2B3hu0IFgfJw3EY%2FPvAht9XCGQFW0C%2FtI%3D&reserved=0> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Mark Duling Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 1:50 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Unlicensed wireless Gig Link for 1000' PtP Hi Lee, Your comment "but I need to frequency-coordinate what’s a fairly busy mounting location" seems to imply you think there are fewer frequency options with Airfiber than competitors. Could you clarify your opinion on that? We've also begun to consider future options such as airfiber for fairly busy mounting locations but have no experience with it as yet. Thanks Mark - Biola IT Network Operations On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Lee H Badman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Much appreciated, Britton. Lee Badman | Network Architect Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200) Information Technology Services 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive Syracuse, New York 13244 t 315.443.3003<tel:(315)%20443-3003> f 315.443.4325<tel:(315)%20443-4325> e [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w its.syr.edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fits.syr.edu&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=ztVQM0xefeCwieJBM%2BXvkbDe%2F2PcygK6n1yzJ6rE76s%3D&reserved=0> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY syr.edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsyr.edu&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=4SdUZZPpB88%2B3hu0IFgfJw3EY%2FPvAht9XCGQFW0C%2FtI%3D&reserved=0> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Britton Anderson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:14 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Unlicensed wireless Gig Link for 1000' PtP +1 for the AirFiber (AF24HD) units. We have one link up a little over a mile away at ~900Mbps bidirectional without any issues for a little over a year. To say that it has weathered the storm this winter might be an understatement. Frequent cold snaps and dense ice fog haven't been a problem for these units. Looking at the links you sent, Lee - the Siklu units are a significantly smaller footprint that meet the 'smaller' requirement. But I think the Siklu is going to be your best bet for full-duplex gigabit performance, but more expensive. The Mimosa B24 (which is just coming out) is a smaller (1ft antenna) 24GHz unit (1.386Gbps), and likely will run you $4K for a pair, but half-duplex... The IgniteNet units I've heard have reliability problems. They do have integrated 5GHz failover, but its 2.5Gbps half-duplex throughput. If you want reliability and performance - go with the Siklu units. Just my 2¢. Britton Anderson<mailto:[email protected]> | Lead Network Communications Specialist | University of Alaska<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alaska.edu%2Foit&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=uYajbK77DtinnolkLCfI92AyhUvBUo7KK6PwhfQPiC0%3D&reserved=0> | 907.450.8250<tel:(907)%20450-8250> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Floyd, Brad <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Lee, I talked to Robert Boardman at WLPC about the Ubiquiti AirFiber24. He had nothing but great things to say about it. Considering his environment on the coast of California and the dense fog he frequently has, he has had no issues. I’m considering it as a possibility for some of our temporary PtP links until we can get fiber put in to certain locations. Robert’s using the AF-24 model and is getting ~700 Mbps throughput up and down. I believe the AF-24HD is supposed to get closer to the 1 Gbps up and down. The price seems reasonable, the features look robust, and the system is unlicensed. This might be another system to look at for your needs. We have an engineering lab that is doing research with the MetroLinq product, but their focus is not for distance PtP links, but for extremely short links and the ability to penetrate certain materials with the 60 GHz. Thanks, Brad From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:59 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Unlicensed wireless Gig Link for 1000' PtP Apologies to those of you who will get this twice. I need to replace a licensed Gig bridge on a short link with smaller/cheaper but still Gig. I know there are many options, but I’m looking for feedback specifically on two 60 GHz options: 1. IgniteNet MetroLinq https://www.ignitenet.com/products/metrolinq/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ignitenet.com%2Fproducts%2Fmetrolinq%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=ZI3c6Y%2B6U9Sxic75KTn%2FDWqwFyKuQKK3W2y4sk5w0yI%3D&reserved=0> 2. Siklu EtherHaul -600 https://www.siklu.com/portfolio-posts/etherhaul-600-series-v-band/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.siklu.com%2Fportfolio-posts%2Fetherhaul-600-series-v-band%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7C6b44e853d1e54d9bae5508d5910168f4%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636574357593627809&sdata=eQjYcg1cvo22CBOzpuylvRW8oUgdcV%2FxptR%2BjQtLfKs%3D&reserved=0> Are any of you using either, and at what length? Anything good or bad to report from reliability, quirkiness, support, etc? 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