Excellent point, Rand- this is called “Body Fade” (for real) in the larger 
realm of radio direction-finding, a.k.a fox hunting. If you master it, it is 
very handy. But it does get a bit tougher when the rogue is above or below you 
on another floor.

FWIW, here’s a blog article I wrote that explains and shows an example of Body 
Fade in the real world for rogue hunting.

https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2018/09/17/catching-up-with-netscout-at-mfd3-big-news-and-body-fade-explained/

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hall, Rand
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android Rogue Hunting App

This is not a novel idea, but your torso attenuates enough signal to make a 
good "opposite" directional antenna. Hold the device close to your chest and do 
a slow 360.

Rand

Rand P. Hall
Director, Network Services                 askIT!
Merrimack College
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If I had an hour to save the world, I would spend 55 minutes defining the 
problem and five minutes finding solutions. – Einstein


On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 8:54 PM Letts, Richard J 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
FYI

In order for an application to do WIFI scanning in Android 10 You have to turn 
on Location Permissions
Specific details here:
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/wifi-scan


(I use Wifi analyser on android 10. It works OK, but it’s not a quality tool 
for locating rogues. Something with a directional antenna would do a lot better)


Richard Letts

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Walter Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:20 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android Rogue Hunting App


It looks like it was started in Android 9 but there is supposed to be a toggle 
in Developer options called "Wi-Fi scan throttling" to disable it on Android 10.

So ignore the man behind the curtain.
------------------------
Walter Reynolds
Network Architect
Information and Technology Services
University of Michigan
(734) 615-9438


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:05 PM Walter Reynolds 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I will try to find the reference, but I think Android changes are preventing 
use of tools like this starting with Android 10

------------------------
Walter Reynolds
Network Architect
Information and Technology Services
University of Michigan
(734) 615-9438


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:06 PM Gray, Sean 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Happy New Year to all you happy wi-fi people!

Does anyone have any Android software products they recommend for Rogue 
hunting? Unfortunately Ekahau Mobile Survey (EMS) has been canned, so we are 
looking for alternatives to put to use on an Android tablet. Ideally it should 
be something simple to use, that allows non-technical users to quickly narrow 
down the location of rogues.

Thanks

Sean

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge


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