We are seeing more and more devices connecting via Bluetooth now at least for 
the initial discovery stage - this is worrying as it bypasses the security we 
have over who can connect to which device. I think this is a long term trend 
now at least on the Apple side...

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: 04 March 2020 16:23
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Device visibility in Aruba AirGroup + ClearPass

I wish all Enterprise vendors did this. Everything else feels like gratuitous 
complexity for the sake of having more to license. If the goal is "make it like 
at home" the notion of device registration smells funny. Although I yield this 
is not a simple discussion.
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on behalf of Paul Smith 
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That's exactly how our Aerohive private client groups work. One SSID across 
residences. Students get a PPSK and all devices using that key can talk to each 
other. Job done.

Paul Smith
Network Specialist (Wireless)
University of Bristol
IT Services
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Bristol
BS1 5QD

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On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: 04 March 2020 15:31
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Device visibility in Aruba AirGroup + ClearPass

Just a quick aside on this:

We are dealing with same questions for long term, but one thing that I think 
gets lost in these "solutions"- students don't register anything at home. Would 
be awesome if a bazillion PPSKs were available on same SSID.

Here kid, your SSID is THIS, your password is THIS. Go to it. Nothing more 
needed and no one can see each other. All the casty stuff works with no network 
tricks.

That would be the Holy Grail, to me.


Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200)
Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

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On Behalf Of Craig D Rice
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:19 AM
To: 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Device visibility in Aruba AirGroup + ClearPass

We are an Aruba shop and are evaluating AirGroup + ClearPass to provide 
students a more home-like experience in their residence halls. That is, we 
would like students to be able to register and see only their registered 
devices.

If a user registers a device in ClearPass, is that device visible to 
non-registered devices (or devices registered to another user) -- even if the 
devices are associated with the same AP?

We have received conflicting answers from our Aruba SEs, account exec, and TAC, 
so we are hoping to learn how to limit device visibility from others who are 
using ClearPass.

Thanks for your advice!
Craig
--

Craig D. Rice
Director of Enterprise Infrastructure | IT
[St. Olaf College]
Office: +1-507-786-3631
1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057-1097  USA
stolaf.edu
<http://stolaf.edu/>


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