For our new residence buildings we are using the PoE version for power and communications. The WiFi service for the residence buildings is provided by a 3rd party so we can't control or manage the RF space or have a secure SSID/Vlan. The door hinges for PoE are expensive, unreliable and can't be repaired, just replaced. A better solution is a Concealed Electrical Power Transfere (CEPT) that can also house a data cable. Lower cost and easier to repair. The next challenge is the integration of the locks with Lenel (Access Control) and StaRez (Residences Management).

Michael Gregory
Network Architect | Infrastructure Services
Simon Fraser University


On 2020-03-31 12:05 p.m., Jim Pampinella wrote:

Have they talked about how they are going to power the Wi-Fi locks? There are several options, battery, external low voltage power and PoE. At Syracuse we have a mixture of all three with the external low voltage power being the most common. PoE has been discussed and in a few places installed, but no one (including me) wants to own the cable going through the door and door frame. 😊While they have PoE rated hinges they are triple the cost and the support from the vendors has been less than desirable.

*Jim Pampinella*
IT Manager
Network and Wiring Services

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Syracuse University

*From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:54 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How does your enterprise do your wireless door locks?

Same locks. We started on dedicated 802.1X SSID, then moved them to main SSID (is not eduroam here) using VLAN steering to get them into their own private IP space. They seem to handle PEAP with MS-CHAPv2 quite nicely. No idea on TLS.

*Lee Badman*| Network Architect (CWNE#200)

Information Technology Services
(NDD Group)
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Syracuse, New York 13244

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*SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY*
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*From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Jess Walczak
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:47 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] How does your enterprise do your wireless door locks?

Sending out a question as to how you do your wifi that serves your wireless door locks.  Do you have them on your branded wifi/eduroam, their own SSID, or a shared IoT or infrastructure SSID?  Is it a hidden SSID?  Do you have them using a simple PSK or do you onboard it with a tool like ISE or Clearpass.  Do you install a cert?

Our institution has purchased Assa Abloy model IN120 door locks.  We are a Cisco shop and we have ISE, so we could easily onboard using their Mac Address Bypass device profiling, but that would consume an expensive license, so perhaps other folks have done something simpler and found it to work well and to be enough security/segmentation.

Thanks!--JW

Jess Walczak
Network Engineer
Innovation & Technology Services
University of St. Thomas | stthomas.edu <http://stthomas.edu>

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