Thanks for the information.

How do you feel about the architecture change?  From my understanding from
the past, you have to trunk vlans to every AP.  There is no longer a
central connection point for better IP space management, which makes sense
if they are a cloud managed product.  Do you see this a problem or
benefit?  How do you work out your subnets per building?  Do you trunk user
vlans across the core and or data center?

Do APs continue to operate if they lose connection to the cloud?  Do you
have access to your specific cloud instance to make sure resources are
acceptable?

Thanks again for any additional information you can provide.

-Jimmy


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:24 PM Kyle Ragan <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are currently a Cisco Catalyst shop with over 5,000 AP’s in use, plus a
> couple buildings with Aruba, but have decided that all future deployments
> will be Meraki.  Our first project is going to be with ~480 Meraki AP’s
> (mixed internal & external antennae and some hospitality APs) in our main
> library.
>
>
>
> I can’t answer many of your questions with regards to experience because
> we are not there, yet.  However, Meraki did provide us with contacts at
> some of their largest customers and we were able to speak with them.  The
> customers were candid about some issues early on (pre-Cisco), but said
> since the acquisition things have been very stable.  Also, many of the
> issues described were with regards to the Meraki switch and security
> appliances.  Very little to do with the APs themselves.
>
>
>
> We decided to go with Meraki due to the value proposition of everything
> that is included in the single AP license.  To license a similar catalyst
> AP the costs were outrageous, plus all the associated appliances required
> to make use of those metrics.  Another big factor was the commitment from
> Meraki to always support their APs regardless of age and never be “forced”
> into upgrading due to EOL/EOS.  We are currently dealing with that on
> campus with both APs and controllers.  We really wanted to get out of that
> game.
>
>
>
> Other than Cisco catalyst we also considered Mist.  What concerned us with
> Mist was the lack of experience with large deployment and high density
> environments.  Also, at the time they did not have a hospitality AP which
> we use in dorms, offices, and some other creative areas.  We would have
> pretty quickly become their largest customer and that’s not something that
> I was willing to do.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps at least somewhat.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Kyle Ragan*
> Associate Director, Network Engineering and Operations
>
> [email protected]
>
> 303.735.4008
>
>
>
> Office of Information Technology
>
> University of Colorado Boulder
> 3645 Marine Street, Rm 212H
> Boulder, CO 80309
>
>
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>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *James Helzerman
> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 7:58 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Meraki at large universities
>
>
>
> Hi.  Is anyone looking at or currently using Meraki in a large
> university?  I am curious as to how far their product has come after a few
> years from the Cisco purchase.  For sizing purposes I am looking at
> deployments of 500 or more Meraki APs with 8+ APs in high density
> auditoriums and/or seat 400-600 students.   In particular I am looking for
> information on:
>
>    - How many APs total do you have on your campus?
>    - What is the peak number of concurrent connections you have seen on
>    the system?
>    - What is the largest high density area you have covered?  How many
>    APs, special settings, models of AP, etc.
>    - What made you choose Meraki over different vendors?
>    - Do you have multiple vendors on your campus?  If so which ones?
>    - If you had a controller based infrastructure before, what changes
>    did you have to make to your architecture?  How much time did it take to do
>    this, what issues did you run into?
>    - What success stories can you share?
>    - What issues do you see or have had with the product?
>    - How customizable are the settings compared to Cisco or Aruba?
>    - What do you like or dont like about the products and/or architecture?
>
> Answers dont need to be long or in depth, I am just gauging adoption at
> larger universities.  If you prefer, feel free to direct message me.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any input you can provide!
>
>
>
> -Jimmy
>
>
>
> --
>
> James Helzerman
> Wireless Network Engineer
> University of Michigan - ITS
>
> Phone: 734-615-9541
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